You must be one of the lucky ones that can get the 69 to shoot. No one else can get very good results from them. I use the 55gr hornady soft points that shoot WAY better than the lot of 2000 69gr RMR bullets I got. Best I can get is 1.25" with them. In 4 different riffles. The latest is a Criterion 26" on my Axis. Still 1.25" Heck the Hornady fmj shoot the same as them.