Setting dies for BTO.

[charlie b]

I've wondered about that method as well and was thinking of trying it with some 105VLD's that I have. I'd have to change something since my neck tension is too high for that right now. They do ok being jammed about .010".

[Fuj']

I've wondered about that method as well and was thinking of trying it with some 105VLD's that I have. I'd have to change something since my neck tension is too high for that right now. They do ok being jammed about .010".

Never had any luck with the load long method and VLD bullets. A tangent ogive bullet works
quite well for me. I'll say that since a tanget ogive bullet is more on the blunt side, it's more
of a positive stop. When shooting the longer ranges such as Ridgway, I started experimenting
with the more tangent 180 gr SMK's in my SA284. I could'nt test much more since those bullets
dried up on the market and primers were getting scarce.

[charlie b]

I had not thought of that aspect of it. I guess I could leave well enough alone :)

[Fuj']

[QUOTE=charlie b;521735 I guess I could leave well enough alone :)[/QUOTE]

Where's your sense of adventure ??......LOL Pick a dead calm day and do at least
a 5 rounder for a cheap look.

[charlie b]

ROFLMAO Yeah, what's it going to cost me? 5 rounds?

Hard part around here in spring is a calm day :) I try to get to the range before the 'mountain outflow' starts to do fine tuning (just before sunrise). After that the winds start.

Fuj, you know that leading someone down the rabbit hole is not a good habit to get into :)

[CFJunkie]

in my case, one group doesn't cut it.
Based upon my shooting skills, I can't assume that all 5 rounds will be consistent enough to allow one group to be the basis to conclude anything.
I also don't use a ladder technique either because any one shot could be off and result in a wrong conclusion about what the best load might be.

Statistically, if 4 or 5 5-round groups don't have a standard deviation of 0.050 or less, I don't think there is enough consistency to make a reasonably accurate conclusion.
Usually, I base my conclusions on 20 groups unless a smaller 10+ sample has a very small standard deviation.

[NF1E]

Even doing ladders, I have considered 10 rnds a minimum for each test, that is at least 10 rnds of each powder amount and this should be in weighed and segregated cases to amount to anything. Whatta Hobby!