I found a lot of info on "VLD" Berger's can anybody help me with this issue, Some say to load them jammed to the lands and other say .010 off the lands has anybody tryed this out. I am loading 168gr Berger's in .308 for 300yd event and the low drag type seem to do a little better at 300-600yds. My sierras like .010-.015 jump. This thing of loading bullets in the lands is new to me. It looks like a bullet can get pulled out of the case and fill the trigger full of powder? I would like to get these bullets shooting, But when I tryed them at .015 off the lands they did not show me anything, My sierras where better at 100yds. I am looking the most accurate bullet and load I can get with this 12 twist 30'' savage.