Questions concerning quality control on new Model 12 LRPV.

**Turkeytider** · 09-25-2023, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by Yodaman

I received my new model 12 lrpv in 6br norma about a month and a half ago. Was super excited to get it to the range. Was a long wait. First thing I noticed was it didn’t appear to have a recessed target crown on the barrel. Had to send the rifle back due to a major chamber issue. I advised Savage about the crown and simply sent it back hoping that they would address both issues and get it back to me. When I got it back they did NOT address the barrel crown, chamber appears to be somewhat smoother and they knocked a small piece out of the stock about 1” from the front. Once I saw these problems I immediately called Customer service.
I’m not on here to just rant but I feel that Savage really needs to address a serious quality control issue before it has a negative impact on their reputation as a supplier of some really accurate and dependable long range bolt action rifles. Does anyone have a photo of what the inside of a chamber on a lrpv should look like when new? Or just a good description. I posted a couple of photos earlier but just got one response that it was somewhat questionable. Looking for some ideas on what I might should be looking for. You help would be greatly appreciated.

Just FWIW, my new LRPV had a recessed crown. There were no noticeable issues with the chamber. No noticeable burrs or rough spots, etc. As is par for Savage, the barrel was dirty as was the bolt face. Anyone buying a "new" Savage rifle should be prepared to clean it before a first range session. Then again, you should clean ANY new firearm prior to first use, regardless of brand.

**J.Baker** · 09-25-2023, 12:26 PM

Anyone seen my hip boots? The assumptions, presumptions, and theoretical guess-timates are piling up pretty deep in here.

**Whynot** · 09-25-2023, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by J.Baker

Anyone seen my hip boots? The assumptions, presumptions, and theoretical guess-timates are piling up pretty deep in here.

You took your hip waders off?? Rookie move....... ALWAYS dress appropriately for the web!

**J.Baker** · 09-25-2023, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Whynot

You took your hip waders off?? Rookie move....... ALWAYS dress appropriately for the web!

**South Prairie jim** · 09-25-2023, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by J.Baker

Anyone seen my hip boots? The assumptions, presumptions, and theoretical guess-timates are piling up pretty deep in here.

No question about that… I’m shooting a recessed this year vs last years 11 degree and see no indication one is better than the other.

**Dave Hoback** · 09-25-2023, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by South Prairie jim

No question about that… I’m shooting a recessed this year vs last years 11 degree and see no indication one is better than the other.

Nope! But once again… I’ve spoken before about a person’s piece of mind, and certain things being exactly likea Placebo. A product, caliber, part, what have you, working better because the user genuinely believes it does. Even in lacking Scientific, Empirical or Analytical evidence of any kind. While I hold no one barrel crown above any other, I DO believe in Placebo effect to some degree.

And on a simpler note, the Recessed Target Crown looks the best & does protect it best from bumps & dings, LOL!

**South Prairie jim** · 09-25-2023, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Dave Hoback

Nope! But once again… I’ve spoken before about a person’s piece of mind, and certain things being exactly likea Placebo. A product, caliber, part, what have you, working better because the user genuinely believes it does. Even in lacking Scientific, Empirical or Analytical evidence of any kind. While I hold no one barrel crown above any other, I DO believe in Placebo effect to some degree.

And on a simpler note, the Recessed Target Crown looks the best & does protect it best from bumps & dings, LOL!

placbo ?
Dave, I respect your opinion but I also have the targets the tell me all I need to know. Science doesn’t always work out just like the lowest ES/SD doesn’t ensure the smallest groups.

**Dave Hoback** · 09-25-2023, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by South Prairie jim

placbo ?
Dave, I respect your opinion but I also have the targets the tell me all I need to know. Science doesn’t always work out just like the lowest ES/SD doesn’t ensure the smallest groups.

Huh? It’s not an opinion. I’m not recommending anything. I was simply making a reference as to why some people think the 11 degree Crown is best. Same reason for many things. Piece of mind. It’s not MY point of view. I actually agree with you. I’ve said several times I don’t think different barrel crowns show any improvement.

**South Prairie jim** · 09-25-2023, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by Dave Hoback

Huh? It’s not an opinion. I’m not recommending anything. I was simply making a reference as to why some people think the 11 degree Crown is best. Same reason for many things. Piece of mind. It’s not MY point of view. I actually agree with you. I’ve said several times I don’t think different barrel crowns show any improvement.

Well , to me your post wasn’t clear and came off as argumentative. I’ll apologize and reframe further discussion.