Functioning problem

[Dave Hoback]

New Extractor with the larger bearing ball under it. I actually like these kits as it’s a better Ejector as well with a heavier spring. Great little kit with the bigger bearing ball included.

https://kinneysshootingsupply.com/ss...r-ejector-kit/

[charlie b]

The extractor fix will probably do it.

The problem is the short case of the 6BR. As you noticed the ejector is pushing on the case. As the case leaves the chamber it gets pushed sideways. The shorter case allows it to be tipped to a larger angle, letting the case slip out from under the extractor. Factory extractors are a minimal design and just barely work even with longer cases. The aftermarket ones, especially with the larger ball bearing, seem to do the trick.

If I still had an ejector in my 6BR I could tell you for sure, but, I set mine up so it won't eject the case.

[Gunracr]

Thanks very much for the guidance. You guys have an amazing amount of knowledge about our Savages. I ordered the kit from Kinneys.

[Gunracr]

Hello. I swapped out the broken extractor for the larger one from Kinney’s but the problem remains the same. Any ideas about what to do next?
BTW, is the kit from Kinney’s the same as the one from your site sponsor?

[charlie b]

So, yeah, I think the problem is the short 6BR case. It allows the case to pivot further and the extractor can't hang on to it. I don't know if there is a fix in this case. Maybe someone with a factory 6BR can say if theirs works as intended.

I like not having the ejector on mine :)

[Dave Hoback]

Did you swap ALL the components? You only indicated replacing the Extractor.

If so, does it happen whether racking the bolt back slow or fast? I agree with Charlie. Many people ultimately just have problems with the BR case because it’s SO short. There are a couple tricks that have worked for this or that person. One is lengthening the Ejector protrusion by filing the back stop slightly. Like in the picture below.

[Gunracr]

Actually I only swapped the extractor. I just had the ejector out and put in a fresh spring. It appears that the ejector is working fine. I’ll try contacting Sharp Shooter Supply and see if he has any tricks.
I have a Savage 6BR F-class that I think ejects brass well. I’ll see if the extraction on that one is any different.

[Dave Hoback]

It has nothing to do with the Ejector working fine. It’s all about the BR case being SO short! The case is pushed by the ejector, but the ejector isn’t long enough so it stops, but the short case continues it’s angle to the side & the case rim falls from the Extractor catch. That’s what is happening. The point of the larger bearing ball & new Extractor is to have a tighter hold. The point of what I just posted is to give the Ejector a longer extension. That is the problem. If you didn’t use the larger bearing ball, use it. Actually, a little lighter ejector spring may help. Some have clipped a coil or two from the ejector spring so it has a little less energy pushing the case. Again, it’s the super short case of the 6BR. Idea is, the slightly weaker spring may keep the ejector from push a bit less keeping the rim from slipping the Extractor just a fraction of a second longer, until it clears. Although, it’s likely the trade off would be a very weak extraction.

Fred is going to tell you the same things. It’s no big secret that only a coupe level “Eleventy-Seven degree” Master Gun-Smiffs possess. LOL! Little bit of research tells you all these “tricks”. But, best of luck to ya.

[Whynot]

Just double checking.... but you keep saying that you just swapped the extractor--- but you are including the larger steel ball in that?

Also- I'd double check your original extractor-- because lots of people think that they have chipped a corner off of it- but depending on the cartridge it may have come from the factory like that.

In my opinion it is not the short case that is the problem....(because other plunger style bolt actions have no problems with them). Savage rifles just don't have as good of extraction/ejection. The Savage 6br's that I've seen could be made to work pretty good if it was a single shot..... but when you add a magazine and more rounds it seems to create more issues. And lastly- what brass are you using?

[Fuj']

Check part numbers to see if the BR models are using a shorter plunger, and / or weaker spring.

[Gunracr]

The larger ball bearing is all that I installed but I’ll go ahead and put in the new ejector as well. I’ll also try taking.020 from the ejector notch per Dave’s suggestion. BTW I use Lapua brass.
I’m going to be really bummed if I bought this new barrel and can’t use it.

BTW, I use this rifle for PRS style shooting so going to a single shot isn’t realistic.

[PhilC]

BTW, is the kit from Kinney’s the same as the one from your site sponsor?

Manufactured by SSS and sold by Kinney's.

I like not having the ejector on mine :)

Same with my 7BR and also removed the one on my 6.5CM as well, unnecessary when shooting benchrest IMHO.