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    Quote Originally Posted by 762-4-U View Post
    Just curious, I am doing the exact same thing. where did you get the bolt head? the rim diameter is .422. I cannot seem to find one

    thanks in advance,
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    Grizzly Industrial sells the PTG boltheads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tparrish View Post
    Grizzly Industrial sells the PTG boltheads.
    yea thanks, I found it ordered it yesterday.... seems its better steel also.

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    Better steel?
    "As long as there's lead in the air....there's still hope.."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpshooter View Post
    Better steel?
    They seem to think their bolt head is better,
    "PTG's Savage bolt head is not subject to the quick deterioration or bolt face dishing that Savage factory bolt heads tend to display after a high volume of fire."
    Grizzly goes a little further out on a limb with
    "made completely to specifications but with a harder material than the factory head."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketvapor View Post
    They seem to think their bolt head is better,
    "PTG's Savage bolt head is not subject to the quick deterioration or bolt face dishing that Savage factory bolt heads tend to display after a high volume of fire."
    Grizzly goes a little further out on a limb with
    "made completely to specifications but with a harder material than the factory head."
    Got a PTG Savage 223 RH bolt from Grizzly. Machining is nice but dimensionally different from 3 "Savage" bolts from GunShack.
    I don't know the specs for lug length and face depth but the PTG depth seems high @ 0.118".
    I'll contact them and see if I can swap or something.
    Not having to set headspace for a one of a kind bolt would be better in my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketvapor View Post
    Got a PTG Savage 223 RH bolt from Grizzly. Machining is nice but dimensionally different from 3 "Savage" bolts from GunShack.
    I don't know the specs for lug length and face depth but the PTG depth seems high @ 0.118".
    I'll contact them and see if I can swap or something.
    Not having to set headspace for a one of a kind bolt would be better in my mind.
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    I have one coming will measure it. let me know what they say

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    I bought a 6.8/224V bolt head from them to shoot 22 Nosgar (6mm Hagar necked down to 22 Nosler).
    Had to size them longer.
    Let me know what you get for lug/face measurement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketvapor View Post
    Got a PTG Savage 223 RH bolt from Grizzly. Machining is nice but dimensionally different from 3 "Savage" bolts from GunShack.
    I don't know the specs for lug length and face depth but the PTG depth seems high @ 0.118".
    I'll contact them and see if I can swap or something.
    Not having to set headspace for a one of a kind bolt would be better in my mind.
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    I sent this picture and a description of my issue. Got a reply from Grizzy;

    We appreciate you contacting us with your question. We do not offer a .233 Savage Bolt Head with a deeper face. We would suggest contacting Pacific Tool and Gauge.

    Think I will stick with the cheaper ones from GunShack.

    Is there a real Savage spec on this dimension?

    I bet @sharpshooter would know :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketvapor View Post
    Got a PTG Savage 223 RH bolt from Grizzly. Machining is nice but dimensionally different from 3 "Savage" bolts from GunShack.
    I don't know the specs for lug length and face depth but the PTG depth seems high @ 0.118".
    I'll contact them and see if I can swap or something.
    Not having to set headspace for a one of a kind bolt would be better in my mind.
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    Umm...you do realize that you have to check/reset headspace EVERY TIME you change specific bolt components, right? Bolt head, front baffle, bolt body - all require checking/resetting headspace due to each parts production tolerances plus the stacking of tolerances on these parts. These things aren't Lego's after all.

    Also, don't fall for PT&G's marketing nonsense. They're making their bolt heads out of the same material as Savage is. The Savage bolt heads don't "dish" from shooting over time, they're dished right out of the box as it's a result of the media polishing process Savage does on the bolt heads. You'll note that the edges around the face of the lugs on your 3 Savage bolt heads is slightly rounded - that's from the tumbling process.
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    Well, guess I'm lucky as I have 3 complete bolts assembled from Savage parts that I have used to compare springs, pins, lift parts, and all the Savage ones headspace almost exactly alike.
    Just interested in why the PTG bolt head is so much different.

    Sorry about jumping in with my .223 bolt head stuff.
    This thread is about .223 to .224V.

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