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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattleakak View Post
    I put everything back to CRF as by changing it to push I most likely am creating a huge problem with feeding from a stagger feed magazine, which is my understanding, why Savage built these stagger feed guns in a Controlled Round Feed in the first place.
    I do not believe this to be true. Push feed Bolt heads work fine with a Stagger feed magazine box.

    As for the head space I would check it. Two different designs and no telling if the critical dimension is the same.

    The next issue would be the firing pin diameter and the new bolt head. This is an easy fix though. With the correct drill bit it is simple.
    I try to tell people to count on the drill bit being at least .002" oversize after the hole is drilled. That means you want to use a bit that is very close to the same diameter or < than your pin diameter.
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    Hmmm, well that's what I've read in threads on this forum but I will try it and see. I'll have to wait until my gauges get here. As far as the firing pin, there isnt any fitment issue that I observed when assembled unless I am missing something. Thanks for the help

    ETA: I believe the feeding issue was exclusive to the belted magnums? But we'll see
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    This is a bit confusing to me. I thought all Savage bolts were push feed type. The only CRF bolts I know of are based on the Mauser design.

    Savage does have the center feed and stagger feed magazines, but both of those work fine with a push feed type bolt.

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    Thought the same. I’ve never seen a Savage 110 in Controlled Feed.

    Found this tread: https://www.savageshooters.com/showt...led-round-feed

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    And this thread which has pictures. https://www.savageshooters.com/showt...d-or-push-feed

    Pretty cool... but I’ll keep my push feed than you. Mine has been 100% reliable.

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    Can you please supply links to where someone errantly posted that Push Feed bolt heads do not work with Stagger Feed magazines?
    The only way that it would not feed is if the feed lips were not correct or you are using the wrong magazine for the cartridge(ie...7 rem mag in a 30-06 magazine).

    If you replace your control round bolt head with a push feed bolt head you will need to remove the V ejector that is attached via the trigger hanger pin, and you will need to set head space. One of the things you will notice is that bolt operation is often slightly smoother due to the ejector not pushing on the bottom of the bolt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robinhood View Post
    Can you please supply links to where someone errantly posted that Push Feed bolt heads do not work with Stagger Feed magazines?
    The only way that it would not feed is if the feed lips were not correct or you are using the wrong magazine for the cartridge(ie...7 rem mag in a 30-06 magazine).

    If you replace your control round bolt head with a push feed bolt head you will need to remove the V ejector that is attached via the trigger hanger pin, and you will need to set head space. One of the things you will notice is that bolt operation is often slightly smoother due to the ejector not pushing on the bottom of the bolt.
    I have literally read through hundreds of posts, and I dont care to dig back for all of them but this is one. Third post down. And trust when I say I read similar statements elsewhere and more on here.
    https://www.savageshooters.com/showt...rol-feed-rifle

    If its not true than that's great, but I ll see for myself when the gauges get here. Thanks for the info.
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