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    Quote Originally Posted by Robinhood View Post
    I second 175 FGMM

    Definitely will give it a shot.

    Does anyone recall the regular price of FGMM 175gr, about 2 years ago, before all this !#$%^& started?

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    I load most of my own but have found LC M118 LR puts most of the other commercial ammo to shame. 175 gn FGMM is usually available but at the bottom of my go to ammo list.
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    My problem was it was difficult to find the military stuff. Never saw a price on the 175 FGMM ammo as it wasn't usually on the shelf around here. Should be close to the 168 FGMM.

    I'd try the Hornady ELD stuff. I have not tried the ammo but their bullets do well in my handloads.

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    If you put a tuner on your barrel, you can shoot just about any quality off the shelf ammo to equal precision with a simple twist of the tuner. A tuner allows you to tune the barrel to the load, whereas handloading is all about tuning the load to the barrel.
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    M118 Special Ball Long Range Mk316 Mod 0 is the FGGM 175smk.

    LC Match case(designed by Federal), IMR 4064 41.7xx grains, FGMM 210M primer.

    There were many iterations of the M118 with many powders and even a 173 closed tip bullet made by LC.
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robinhood View Post
    M118 Special Ball Long Range Mk316 Mod 0 is the FGGM 175smk.

    LC Match case(designed by Federal), IMR 4064 41.7xx grains, FGMM 210M primer.

    There were many iterations of the M118 with many powders and even a 173 closed tip bullet made by LC.

    I would recommend LC 15 M118 LR specifically over Fed 175 GMM. There is a significant difference. Check the runout on FGMM and you will see a huge difference compared to the M118. Difference of 1.25 moa compared to .75 for the M118, at least the few thousand I have run through my rifles over the recent years. Powder consistency is much better on the M118 too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NF1E View Post
    I would recommend LC 15 M118 LR specifically over Fed 175 GMM. There is a significant difference. Check the runout on FGMM and you will see a huge difference compared to the M118. Difference of 1.25 moa compared to .75 for the M118, at least the few thousand I have run through my rifles over the recent years. Powder consistency is much better on the M118 too.
    I'll give it a try, but as of now it's not available anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NF1E View Post
    I would recommend LC 15 M118 LR specifically over Fed 175 GMM. There is a significant difference. Check the runout on FGMM and you will see a huge difference compared to the M118. Difference of 1.25 moa compared to .75 for the M118, at least the few thousand I have run through my rifles over the recent years. Powder consistency is much better on the M118 too.
    I have found the powder to be within .02grains and I never had issues with RO. I currently reload using the recipe fro the FGMM/M118 in weight sorted cases if I want that. 41.75 grains of 4064 is usually on the mark.

    Somewhere near 43.5 of 4064 is a sweet spot in many rifles. Very close recipes with Varget and R15 too.
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

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    but the m118lr was a great load that was slowly down loaded to work in the m14( designed for bolt guns).
    the 316 load is a good general load but not great like the lr load was.
    reloader 15 smk 175
    try a berger 175 instead or even a lapua 185

    Quote Originally Posted by Robinhood View Post
    M118 Special Ball Long Range Mk316 Mod 0 is the FGGM 175smk.

    LC Match case(designed by Federal), IMR 4064 41.7xx grains, FGMM 210M primer.

    There were many iterations of the M118 with many powders and even a 173 closed tip bullet made by LC.

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    Looks like I will get a chance to see how my .308 Model 10 does at extended range. The local club that has a 1200 yd range is hosting a long range class, and 1200 will be available.

    I picked up some FGMM 175gr and Lapua Scenar-L 175gr to test and zero before the class.

    I did see some M118LR for sale...$65 a box! Can't go there...

    Is it unrealistic to expect to group 2-3 MOA at 1200 with my set-up if conditions are favorable and I do my part?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas10 View Post
    If you put a tuner on your barrel, you can shoot just about any quality off the shelf ammo to equal precision with a simple twist of the tuner. A tuner allows you to tune the barrel to the load, whereas handloading is all about tuning the load to the barrel.

    Unfortunately, the barrel isn't threaded.

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    and the statement is not true...a poor bullet does not get better with a tuner

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