Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: Need a survey, rate barrels

  1. #1
    Basic Member Shooter0302's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Location
    NW Fla
    Age
    77
    Posts
    348

    Need a survey, rate barrels


    These would be "top Tier"

    Second would be ??


    third would be ??


    forth would be ??

  2. #2
    Basic Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2019
    Location
    WI
    Posts
    263

  3. #3
    Basic Member Robinhood's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    South Texas
    Age
    66
    Posts
    7,813
    If your top tier list is closed I would say your next bet is Bartlein. Bartlein should be top tier with the best.

    Second level would be top button rifled. Shillen and pac nor an a few others in the second group maybe some from your top tier in there. Probably put criterion and maybe McGowan in there too.

    Third, Xcaliber, Wilson etc...

    Green Mountain and Shaw etc...
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

  4. #4
    Basic Member Shooter0302's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Location
    NW Fla
    Age
    77
    Posts
    348
    Quote Originally Posted by Robinhood View Post
    If your top tier list is closed I would say your next bet is Bartlein. Bartlein should be top tier with the best.

    Second level would be top button rifled. Shillen and pac nor an a few others in the second group maybe some from your top tier in there. Probably put criterion and maybe McGowan in there too.

    Third, Xcaliber, Wilson etc...

    Green Mountain and Shaw etc...

    yep, the copy & paste thing didn't pick up the Bartlein fot the 1st tier. The link by JKV45 was interesting, user preference putting X caliber where it did, and especially the bbl. profiles. Good thing they use the "erector set" stocks or they would come close to being classified as "crew served weapons"

  5. #5
    Basic Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Posts
    503
    If it’s a survey I can’t see it. Tapatalk user.

    The best I’ve had have been Hart and Lilja. Both button pullers. I’ve got some good X-Calibers and a very good Wilson from Ragged Hole. I want to try a Bartlein next, Frank is a contributor here and seems like a very matter of fact feller from his posts here and a fascinating podcast I listened to recently about gain twists.

  6. #6
    Basic Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Posts
    153
    I’m sure I could be corrected, but in my mind...
    First...the WI based cut rifled barrel makers...Obermeyer, Kreiger, Rock Creek, Brux, Bartlein, K&P, etc

    Then there are the proven button rifle folks....Lilja, Hart, Shilen, Pac-Nor, etc

    Then there are guys that make great barrels that I’m not sure where they fit in, but they make good bullet throwers.....Mullerworks, Benchmark, Douglas, Broughton, Schneider, Criterion, Lothar Walther, Proof Research, Hawk Hill, Masterpiece Arms, HS Precision, Wilson, etc

    The above names all have excellent track records and are known to deliver consistent quality.

    Then there is Shaw , EABCO, Green Mountain, Bergara, etc....these guys all do a fine business, but seem to take some shortcuts that keep them off of competitors rifles, but also keep prices a notch lower.

    Then there are companies like McGowen, XCaliber, etc that just don’t seem to deliver consistent good barrels and can’t stop the bad from leaving out their front door.

    For clarity, I’m not an expert. I own a WOA made a Wilson AR15 Barrel, A Rock Creek on my Savage chassis build(unfixed), and have a Brux on order.

    Best group so far from the Wilson....
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	33-A7-F05-F-75-EE-4-A8-E-B6-AD-3-FBCD3684732.jpg 
Views:	8 
Size:	97.4 KB 
ID:	7099
    This rifle is just beginning load development.

  7. #7
    Basic Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Johnson County,Tx
    Posts
    569
    If you're shooting for money,I'd agree with going with a cut rifled barrel. If you just enjoy shooting for fun with friends or most local matches it really doesn't matter,most guy's would never know the difference between a cut or button rifled barrel.
    Currently,I'm running Shilen, McGowen, Krieger, X-Caliber, Lilja, White Oak, Wilson, and E.R.Shaw barrels on a bunch of rifles. They all shoot great with hand loads. I find it funny that people rate Shaw barrels so far down the list. The smallest groups that I've ever shot out of any of my bolt actions were with Shaw barrels,and they consistently shoot tiny groups.
    Almost any name brand barrel made today will easily shoot sub-moa groups with very little load tuning,and most will do 1/2 moa or better off a bench,even with gas guns.

  8. #8
    Basic Member rjtfroggy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Ct.
    Age
    72
    Posts
    1,621
    New comer to the barrel makers list ABC barrels one man shop and has national winners in both IBS and UBR.
    FROGGY
    See profile for fire arms
    Do it today there maybe no tomorrow

  9. #9
    Basic Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2019
    Location
    WI
    Posts
    263
    https://precisionrifleblog.com/2019/...ifle-barrel-2/


    Anyone know why Brux isn't listed in this chart about popular PRS/NRL rifle barrels?

    I thought they are a big player in some type of rifle discipline.

    Being from WI, I find it interesting that a lot of the heavy hitters in the barrel industry are from WI. I live about 10 mi from Brux.
    Last edited by jkv45; 04-23-2020 at 02:17 PM. Reason: typo

  10. #10
    Basic Member Robinhood's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    South Texas
    Age
    66
    Posts
    7,813
    nksmfamjp; great list

    Froggy; can you get one?

    JKV45; Fads are steeling thunder.
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

  11. #11
    Basic Member Fuj''s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2019
    Location
    Erie, Pa. U.S.A.
    Age
    71
    Posts
    811
    Quote Originally Posted by jkv45 View Post
    https://precisionrifleblog.com/2019/...ifle-barrel-2/


    Anyone know why Brux isn't listed in this chart about popular PRS/NRL rifle barrels?

    I thought they are a big player in some type of rifle discipline.
    Not real sure but in certain crowds there is a following, Or we say
    the "Lemming" factor !! Robin Arduin, an excellent F-class shooter
    sent me some equipment list data a year or so ago. Seems most
    had a Brux spun up, and topped by a Night force. Good to see on there
    about some Savage actions in the upper mix. of the 6 I could trace,
    only one had a traditional nut and the rest were shouldered.....I shoot
    Brux on one build and it's money well spent. Shot Kreiger, Hart, Douglas,
    Shilen, and Criterion. Never shot a Bartlien, but that changes shortly.
    The brown truck has one on the way for a wildcat project.

    I forgot about the Wilson barrels On my RRA's....Shooters also for the
    intent.
    Keeping my bad Karma intact since 1952

  12. #12
    Basic Member Fuj''s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2019
    Location
    Erie, Pa. U.S.A.
    Age
    71
    Posts
    811
    Quote Originally Posted by rjtfroggy View Post
    New comer to the barrel makers list ABC barrels one man shop and has national winners in both IBS and UBR.
    Any more info on this or even a contact ?? The only ABC I'm aware of is a
    AR parts re-hasher out of Vegas.
    Keeping my bad Karma intact since 1952

  13. #13
    Basic Member rjtfroggy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Ct.
    Age
    72
    Posts
    1,621
    Robinhood I do have one 30BR 17.5 twist, threaded with a shoulder shoots like a laser. Gun smith said it was right up there with what is considered the best for short range BR. I am now waiting for a 8 twist 6mm.

    fuj' you need to go to accurate shooter and see if you can contact Oliver88. He has a web site just not ready to turn on. Next time I talk to him I will ask if he wants me to give his number out, or his address.
    FROGGY
    See profile for fire arms
    Do it today there maybe no tomorrow

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 10
    Last Post: 05-16-2016, 10:45 AM
  2. Rate these barrels. Comments welcome.
    By Code4 in forum 110-Series Rifles
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 12-24-2013, 10:27 AM
  3. B-Mag Series: Savage B.MAG Survey Results
    By Eric Mayer in forum Savage & Stevens Rimfire Rifles
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 12-18-2013, 12:55 AM
  4. B-Mag Series: Savage B.MAG Survey
    By Eric Mayer in forum Savage & Stevens Rimfire Rifles
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 12-09-2013, 03:34 PM
  5. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 08-09-2013, 12:30 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •