ok that makes sense I just built a 7mm Bench rest and used a axis Long Action (270) cause it was cheap... I do have some extraction issues somtimes it works just fine other times i just drops it on top of the magazine and I have to fish it out.. so if I am right a shorter action will help alleviate poor extraction,, letting full extraction of the case thru the port and out of the gun... so is the .223 rem considered a short action or standard action?