Excellent link! That's the kind of info I was looking for. Thank you.
Originally Posted by SageRat Shooter
Excellent link! That's the kind of info I was looking for. Thank you.
Agree. Linked article is a good read.
Glad I could help..
There is some good talk about them over on 24 hr campfire as well. A few guys are taking elk without any issues, so I am pretty sure whitetails won't be that much of a problem.
Ultimately, they are similar to Hornady's Interlock bullets, just with an updated copper jacket and redesigned aerodynamics. I have killed a pile of deer with standard Interlocks and SSTs, so I wouldn't hesitate to use them (and will be using them in my new 7-08AI build).
I have shot lots of deer and hogs with eld-x bullets from my 6.5creed to 300wby. They have all performed great for me. From deer and hogs at 40yds with the creed and a muley buck at 890yds with the 212s in my 300win. Everything dropped in their tracks.
Stumpkiller, good luck with the game changers. I tried to run them in my 7saum. Wanted a little heavier bullet for elk. I ran the 165s at 3030fps. Didn't find an elk big enough to try but got a couple deer and lost my first deer ever with a rifle. I don't think they open well at all on deer. I will never send another game changer at an animal. Just my opinion and experience.
Adam
I really think that the competition among bullet companies is the real reason we see so many changes in bullets.
No different than 3 car washes in the same town all just offering a nice clean car.
But they all seem to be doing it for whatever the reason.
Back in the early fifties, it was a 139 gr 6.5 bullet introduced in this country by Norma, which caused the creation of the 6.5x300 Weatherby cartridge and lots of excitement among long range hunters at that time.
It was known to be a very good performer on deer at long ranges, even though it was illegal to use in PA, where much of that type hunting took place. And the reason was it had a metal jacket attracted to a magnet, which the law there still forbids.
Im still using 162 gr Hornady 7mm bullets i bought in the 70s, but that same bullet has seen several changes since, including a considerable drop in the BC #.
One thing hasent changed though, that being where you hit them and how much blood loss it causes.
Not good to hear. The reason I wanted to try the GameChangers was because I wanted a bullet that would open more for lung shock (I try to avoid bones other than ribs). Figured that it would also be a good coyote bullet. We'll see how it goes. My shots are typically 10 yards to 100 yards; though in spots I could reach out to 300. I stick to pretty tight cover.
"They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance." Last words of Gen. Sedgwik
If I didnt want something a bit heavier in my 7saum. Id run the TMKs. I think they would be great for medium sized game and smaller. They flat out shoot in every gun ive put them through. Shot 2 antelope with them in my 22creed last fall. Running the 77gr TMKs at 3636fps. Dropped a doe at 395 and my buck at 486 . I will either shoot eld-x or TMKs for medium game or smaller. Very happy with the results.
Adam
I'm not a fan of the concept of using target bullets on game over 50 lbs. But if you are getting results I can't argue with that.
Whitetail may not take much bullet, but they do take a lot of killing. I was very pleased with the 143 gr ELD-x. No matter what I an shooting I wait for a "sure" shot and kill. I've taken over a dozen with a lead round ball from a traditional muzzleloader. No worse ballistic coefficient than a round ball. But I've had bucks drop without taking a step.
Same with a bow. I shoot 1960's recurves, wood arrows, and a broadhead manufactured in 1960 (Mowoc Dot) and a well placed 45 ft lb energy arrow will kill a deer in seven seconds. That's actually pretty scary for those of us who play with sharp things.
"They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance." Last words of Gen. Sedgwik
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