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    Hello,

    Thanks for the replies. It was about 10 degrees colder that's it. I didn't do a 10 shot reading, just a 3 shot but I just ran into an issue I've been reading about and might have to send the rifle back to savage. The cases are coming out scratched and difficult to eject, also difficult to close bolt on once fired brass. I did a search about this and it seems the LRP in 6.5 has had issues with tight chambers or bad chamber cuts. I loaded up some 147s with IMR 4350 out of the factory ammo brass to start testing and a few are coming out scratched, minor dents and very difficult to extract and eject.

    I found out by trying to measure the chamber without the firing pin and ejector using a neck sized case and it wouldn't close, it wouldn't go forward all the way, had to pull hard on the bolt and noticed it was scratched in a few places. Tried a couple other ones and the same thing, I was getting more bad ones than good so I need to figure this out.

    Forgot to add, when I brought it home from the store I did a measurement with the Hornady OAL gauge and the avg. of 10 readings was 2.248". Don't know if that's too short a chamber for 6.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 88Magnum View Post
    Hello,

    Thanks for the replies. It was about 10 degrees colder that's it. I didn't do a 10 shot reading, just a 3 shot but I just ran into an issue I've been reading about and might have to send the rifle back to savage. The cases are coming out scratched and difficult to eject, also difficult to close bolt on once fired brass. I did a search about this and it seems the LRP in 6.5 has had issues with tight chambers or bad chamber cuts. I loaded up some 147s with IMR 4350 out of the factory ammo brass to start testing and a few are coming out scratched, minor dents and very difficult to extract and eject.

    I found out by trying to measure the chamber without the firing pin and ejector using a neck sized case and it wouldn't close, it wouldn't go forward all the way, had to pull hard on the bolt and noticed it was scratched in a few places. Tried a couple other ones and the same thing, I was getting more bad ones than good so I need to figure this out.

    Forgot to add, when I brought it home from the store I did a measurement with the Hornady OAL gauge and the avg. of 10 readings was 2.248". Don't know if that's too short a chamber for 6.5.
    When you measured the chamber length with the gauge did you use the 147 ELD-M bullets, my brand new factory 10BA Stealth Measured 2.865" with 147 ELD-M, 2.840" with 130 ELD-M and 2.880 with 143 ELD-X.
    2.248" for your max length to the lands is way short if that is what you got to the tip of the bullet. Are you measuring with Hornady's bullet comparator or to the tip of bullet for OAL?
    If it was really 2.248" COAL to the lands you would be jamming factory ammo pretty hard into the lands every ltime you pushed your load forward. 2.800" is a pretty standard default COAL in a lot of books and QL as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowfishn View Post
    When you measured the chamber length with the gauge did you use the 147 ELD-M bullets, my brand new factory 10BA Stealth Measured 2.865" with 147 ELD-M, 2.840" with 130 ELD-M and 2.880 with 143 ELD-X.
    2.248" for your max length to the lands is way short if that is what you got to the tip of the bullet. Are you measuring with Hornady's bullet comparator or to the tip of bullet for OAL?
    If it was really 2.248" COAL to the lands you would be jamming factory ammo pretty hard into the lands every ltime you pushed your load forward. 2.800" is a pretty standard default COAL in a lot of books and QL as well.
    I found what the issue was, since I'm new at reloading, I was neck sizing too much. I started reloading with the Redding S Type and Competition Dies, those were easy to set up and understand but that was for .308. I'm using Lee for 6.5 and the Lee neck sizer is a pain to figure out the right setting but I think I got it now. I cycled the fired brass from the last box of ammo and all was good.

    Yes, I took the measurement with the 147s ELD and no, the COAL is 2.864. The Ogive measurement was 2.248 so I can load longer than factory and still be good. I loaded .020 off lands and everything was fine at the range. I didn't realize the brass that was getting stuck were the ones I neck sized.

    Thanks.

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