Wow, thanks jim. I will definitely follow your advice. I looked at the quickload, it's now on my list along with a lab radar. I pretty much have everything else. For now I'm stuck at 100 yards for testing, until I decide to travel to a longer distance range. Hard to find or join any clubs around my area. You can go shoot in a match, but you can't practice unless your a member or know one, and the waiting list is around 5 years it sounds like. I am going up to the Huntsville area to check out a range up there soon. I do have 4895 and varget on hand and some 80g Smk's to start with. I just prepped 200 rounds of federal lake city brass and ordered some lapua too. Can you recommend a primer to start with? Once again thanks. You are saving me time and money. This will be my first dabble into the accuracy game.