The only problem is the OP is looking for an ELR scope. The scopes mentioned have limited internal elevation. The Bushnell 4.5-30 only has 50 MOA total. None will do what he wants. Rifle scopes aren't just telescopes. Yes clear glass is great but being able to see something a little better than with another and not being able to hit it as you can't dial up enough elevation doesn't do the job. The Razor has good glass and I know more than one person who uses it on ELR rifles to shoot a mile plus.