I live in down east Maine I have 6 kids three of which are older boys we all hunt and do a lot of shooting we all have savage rifles when the boys all turned old enough to hunt I bought each of them a new rifle they have 2 243s and one got a 7 mm 08 even now they are ages 23 20 and 16 and all have there own lobster boats and do very well for them selves when its time to go hunting a lot of the time they still go through the door with that very same rifle that I bought for them .we have many guns and they could have any gun they wont .they still bye savage. combined we have 9 or 10 I just found this forum and have enjoyed reading a lot of good info thanks for letting me be part of this community.