Yeah, I'm looking for a "brush gun" for walking up deer and/or close-in stand hunting piggies. I figure with a 5 round mag (legal here for deer) for hunting and a higher cap. for woods-walking and home defense (yeah... a dose of those pills will def. put Mr. Naughty man to sleep). I'm sure it will be heavier than an M-4 but with a short barrel and polymer hand rails would still be light enough to use for those tasks. 200gr SSTs will definitely put anything in the woods here on its backside post-haste if put in the right place