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    My New 25 Cal Wildcat


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    It is a 25 Remington Ultra Mag all 110gr of it, with a 257 Weatherby 80gr capacity, a 25-06 AI 65gr capacity, and a 223ai for comparison purposes, the barrel is a Mcgowen 30" 14 twist varmint profile, I will be able to send any bullet I choose that is available for this caliber even the 120s, I will most likely be sending Nosler ballistic tip 85gr @ 4800fps+ and there 100gr @ 4500 fps+ I have some 70gr Blitz kings that I will be sending over the 5000fps+ mark hopefully all under a half Min, I had the taper on the barrel start further down so I could get at least 6 resets, I don't get as excited as I use to when I get a new barrel, but this one has me all hot and bothered, I will give a full report as soon as I can.

    Dean

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    I guess the top speed you are after is the speed of the gasses going down the barrel,sounds as if you are almost there.Keep after it and keep giving us updates.Love to hear about your new cartridges.
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    Thank god for tax returns, I forgot to mention the dies used, for the neck and shoulder I used 25 WSSM dies, and there is no fire forming needed, I also used them for seat the bullets, and a gutted 7mm RUM or 300 RUM for full length sizing, I already had those so that made it easy.

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    All I can say is wow.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by quarterbore View Post
    All I can say is wow.....
    Uh...ya.. What he said. That is some serious speed! Should make a good p-dog gun!

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    Wow! Almost doesnt even look right, bullet that small sittin on that much powder....absolutely awesome! Cant wait to hear the range report!
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    WOW is right! That thing should turn 'yotes inside out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotcha View Post
    WOW is right! That thing should turn 'yotes inside out.

    Now I want one !

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    I just got my hands on some Bergers some VLD 115s, I was not aware they made such nice bullets in 25Cal, and the BC is half decent also.

    Dean
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    Didnt even dawn on me you didnt have those, I've got some you coulda tried. They shoot really well out of my 257 wby
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    I was actually playing with the Berger ballistics calculator with these the other day base on your 25 RUM Dean. I figured you'd probably get them up around 4500FPS or so. It was something like 3Mils to 1000yds......

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    I never think of using Bergers since I have never seen them, up here in the northeast on the shelves of any gun store, are they online order only? from them or the big box guys, this is a partial box that I got so we will see, I can't wait to defy all common trends and beliefs, that you can't stabilize a 115gr out of a 14 twist. LOL

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    Cabelas has them around here but thats about the only local store that has them here. Ill be looking forward to hearing/seeing your results with them. This might sound a lil odd, but Im not sure Ive made my complete judgement on game performance yet. They seem to do what they say as far as performance (go in a few inches and disintegrate) but I had a pretty lenghty tracking job last fall with one. Shot was quartering away....ended up going in around 3/4 way back of the ribs and still found its way through the heart. Insides were obliterated, but I had no exit wound and found no blood...weather wasnt the greatest mind you (dark, had rained on and off and the hill was terribly thick and brushy). Kinda got me thinking maybe had the bullet made an exit it woulda helped with the blood trail. Im not gonna write this bullet off by any means just got me to thinking myself. The accuracy just got me hooked. Other times(I can think of about 4kills...WT deer) Ive used them and theyve been bang flop, so thats why ill keep using them to further my experience with them
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    Quote Originally Posted by scope eye View Post
    ..... I can't wait to defy all common trends and beliefs, that you can't stabilize a 115gr out of a 14 twist. LOL

    Dean
    You can usually stabilize long bullets in a slow twist if you push them hard....you shouldn't have a problem with that. They might get squirrely at 1500-2000 yards though. I had that problem with a 105gr going 3450fps out of my 243 Super Rock Chucker with a 1:10 twist shot great out to about 1400 yards, at 1500 yards they weren't MOA anymore.

    25 calibers are my favorite, I would look at the 110gr Accubond for that beast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterf79 View Post
    Cabelas has them around here but thats about the only local store that has them here. Ill be looking forward to hearing/seeing your results with them. This might sound a lil odd, but Im not sure Ive made my complete judgement on game performance yet. They seem to do what they say as far as performance (go in a few inches and disintegrate) but I had a pretty lenghty tracking job last fall with one. Shot was quartering away....ended up going in around 3/4 way back of the ribs and still found its way through the heart. Insides were obliterated, but I had no exit wound and found no blood...weather wasnt the greatest mind you (dark, had rained on and off and the hill was terribly thick and brushy). Kinda got me thinking maybe had the bullet made an exit it woulda helped with the blood trail. Im not gonna write this bullet off by any means just got me to thinking myself. The accuracy just got me hooked. Other times(I can think of about 4kills...WT deer) Ive used them and theyve been bang flop, so thats why ill keep using them to further my experience with them
    Scooter
    They really aren't designed as a hunting round, but Berger does make a hunting bullet now I hear. When hunting I want a round that's gonna go bang flop, but in those few instances that they don't go flop, I want a bullet that will exit and give me a good blood trail. I hate to have to track animals, but hate losing one even more...

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    Guess I should have clarified, I was using the 115gr Hunting VLD, sorry
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterf79 View Post
    Guess I should have clarified, I was using the 115gr Hunting VLD, sorry
    Scooter

    OK...well that reinforces my decision to avoid Bergers....LOL

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    Can we get an update ??? The suspense is killing me.

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    Sorry nothing to report yet my permit is taking forever, life in MA really Bites.

    Dean
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    Quote Originally Posted by scope eye View Post
    Sorry nothing to report yet my permit is taking forever, life in MA really Bites.

    Dean
    Not any better here in NY either. They have the new compliant AR's in stock at the local gun shop. They are more messed up than a soup sandwich, general all around messed up feel to them.

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    Where are you at with this project ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cranebird View Post
    Where are you at with this project ?
    It is back at Apaches for tweaking, no one makes that reamer so it had to be done with creativity.

    Dean
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    Ahh gotcha, anything major? Im really curious to how this round ends up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterf79 View Post
    Ahh gotcha, anything major? Im really curious to how this round ends up.
    No nothing major, I just want a bit more free bore, that and I want to try a recessed crown instead of they standard 11 degree crown, it wont be long.

    Dean
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    Quote Originally Posted by scope eye View Post
    No nothing major, I just want a bit more free bore, that and I want to try a recessed crown instead of they standard 11 degree crown, it wont be long.

    Dean
    What does a recessed crown do for a bullet who is trying to keep its composure while achieving warp drive speeds ?

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