I would guess varget and 4064 will be ok but not stellar speed wise I tried 25.3 imr 4064 in 223 with 50gr barnes vg in fed cases clocked just under 3100. Switched to rl7 but haven't settled on a load. 22-22.5 shows some promise but the vg isn't proving to be a keeper. Am probably going to switch to the 53gr v-max after we shoot up the vg's and stick with 4064.