Black around case necks on my gun, but not on others?

[cranebird]

I used a little Elmers when I made mine.
And it was closest to the edge of the shelf when I looked for some glue in my collection.
Worked out OK and I was able to remove the cutter when it dulled and needed to be replaced.
As far as keeping it straight, the case length gage part will keep it straight. Keeping even pressure with a crooked gage may be a different story if it's pitched on an angle.



PS - set it deeper in the wood. The closer your hand is to the case, the easier it it'll be to control pressure on the cutter.

Thanks, after I finish my cup of coffee, I'll set it deeper. I know it doesn't matter if it is exactly straight for function but for peace at mind, it makes all of the difference in the world. Natchez is where I got my other sets. I believe they were $4.95 there but I can't remember if the package read the same ?

[fgw_in_fla]

I think they put that "new, improved 1/4"" thing on there to confuse us.

It appears it may have worked, too.

[BillPa]

I had the same isssue with my 6BR..So I anealed the brass and when I went
to the range with my so called pet load,the accuracy had went to hell.
Would this be due to the annealing of the brass.This is lapua brass
and has been shot 13 times.I have had some shooters tell me they never
anneal.Is there something to this or just a fluk thing ?

It could be a fluke. Some guys anneal after every reloading-firing cycle.

Some brass work hardens more/faster than others. I have a batch of 25-06 Rem brass I have to re-anneal after two firings otherwise I'll almost rip the press off the bench pulling the expander through the necks.

One way to tell if its time is the pliers test. Gently squeeze the neck with a pliers until it just starts to deform then release the pliers. If it springs back its time to toast it. If it stays load it.

When annealing you also want to include the shoulder especially if you're bump'm them. They work harden too. It can mean the difference between a consistent bump in one pass or two or three to override the spring back.

Bill

[cranebird]

I would have never guessed that it was added purely for entertainment purposes....... Brilliant marketing scheme. I glued the ball with elmers wood glue.I am wishing now that I had a shelf collection of glue to choose from. What a great topic that would have been in the help me decided section...

signed still sleepless in the Hamlet of Wheeler, NY.

[grendelguy]

I have seen the black marks in question before except in a reverse. A friend on mine had a m700 tactical in .308 and I was shooting a model 10 McMillan. The brass was pretty clean out of the Savage and very black neck on the Rem. I should state that both rifles were basically new and we were shooting Fggm ammo.
We started doing oal testing for reloads and the Rem chamber could take loads almost .200" longer so I wrote off the black as just a long throated chamber. You could not load for this rifle into the lands and still use the blind mag, the McMillan shoots lights out at 2.800"

[cranebird]

I have seen the black marks in question before except in a reverse. A friend on mine had a m700 tactical in .308 and I was shooting a model 10 McMillan. The brass was pretty clean out of the Savage and very black neck on the Rem. I should state that both rifles were basically new and we were shooting Fggm ammo.
We started doing oal testing for reloads and the Rem chamber could take loads almost .200" longer so I wrote off the black as just a long throated chamber. You could not load for this rifle into the lands and still use the blind mag, the McMillan shoots lights out at 2.800"

There might be something to the long throat theory .My .223 has a OAL of 2.419" to the lands with a Nosler 55 gr varmint Ballistic tip bullet.

[fgw_in_fla]

I'll bet Deano never sees any black soot marks on the necks of his brass.

Stretch marks, yes.
But no black marks...

Storm off the coast of Fla. this morning forecasted to strengthen and cause lots of rain. It's been raining here so much I need to use a rowboat to get out to my mailbox.
Think I'll go back to bed.

[BillPa]

Storm off the coast of Fla. this morning forecasted to strengthen and cause lots of rain. It's been raining here so much I need to use a rowboat to get out to my mailbox.
Think I'll go back to bed.

Lucky you. I have three grandchildren here today. Wanna trade? You can deal with the savage beasts, I'll row the boat!

Bill ( where's my Prozac) Pa.

[fgw_in_fla]

Remember Bill...
The best thing about grandkids is they go home after a while.
Play your cards right and get them all sugared up before you send them home. It's a great way to get even with the kids...

And to answer your question, NO.
I have a granddaughter here 3 to 5 days a week for additional education. Trying to fill in the blanks from what schools are conveniently leaving out.
Have fun and play nice.

[emtrescue6]

Remember Bill...
The best thing about grandkids is they go home after a while.
Play your cards right and get them all sugared up before you send them home. It's a great way to get even with the kids...

And to answer your question, NO.
I have a granddaughter here 3 to 5 days a week for additional education. Trying to fill in the blanks from what schools are conveniently leaving out.
Have fun and play nice.

Isn't our education system a wonderful thing now days? We spend several hours a week supplementing our daughters education at home.....

[fgw_in_fla]

Isn't our education system a wonderful thing now days? We spend several hours a week supplementing our daughters education at home.....

No comment.

[pitsnipe]

No comment.

Smart beyond yer years Frank. I think you and I BOTH would take up one huge soap box if Really started on THAT subject. Good reading on the case annealing. Learning a lot from you good folks.



Snipe

[fgw_in_fla]

Yeah, its best to stick with topics at hand.
Like sooty case necks, annealing, what glue to use on wooden balls, hassling Deano...

[rjtfroggy]

Frank I won't comment but hopefully this will work.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/05/29/south-won-civil-war-beach-babes-bomb-watters-world-memorial-day-quiz

[fgw_in_fla]

Again, no comment.

You guys are trying to get me in trouble. It doesn't take much these days to get me going off on a political rant.
Just ask my wife.

[emtrescue6]

Again, no comment.

You guys are trying to get me in trouble. It doesn't take much these days to get me going off on a political rant.
Just ask my wife.

How bout them cowgirls!

[fgw_in_fla]

How bout them cowgirls!

Do they have sooty necks, too?

[emtrescue6]

Do they have sooty necks, too?

I would venture to bet some of them might....hahahahah!

[cranebird]

I'll bet Deano never sees any black soot marks on the necks of his brass.

Stretch marks, yes.
But no black marks...

Nice shot man !

[fgw_in_fla]

I just wouldn't feel complete unless I take a shot at Deano and his reloading technique. He calls me a wimp for my light loads so I have to get 'em in when the opportunity presents itself.

[scope eye]

I just wouldn't feel complete unless I take a shot at Deano and his reloading technique. He calls me a wimp for my light loads so I have to get 'em in when the opportunity presents itself.

Light loads you say, I am surprised they even make it out of they end of the barrel.

Dean

[fgw_in_fla]

Light loads you say, I am surprised they even make it out of they end of the barrel.

Dean

It's a good thing I have no feelings.
That might've hurt.

So what if I get 46" of drop from 50yds to 100yds?
What's it to ya?

[cranebird]

Don't feel bad,my load data is light years behind Dean's ....


The ball is glued onto the cutter but I have no brass to trim.

Dean, I would trade you the extra cutter in the new 1/4" shank package for a piece of stretched brass but think it would wear my cutter out trimming it back to length in which I would need the cutter with the new 1/4" shank that I traded you. I can't win !

[foxx]

I would venture to bet some of them might....hahahahah!

Only the good ones!

[cranebird]

No way a blue footed Booby could be confused with a sooty albatross........