Gb1206.....you have to be a paid member to utilize certain parts of the forum. Best $15 you will spend. Boots, thanks, I had just started looking for year of MFG differences, figured there must be one or more after I ran off at the mouth.....er, keyboard. I think the oldest one I had done was an early '70s but I've slept since then. Plus, that was long before I developed a barrel nut addiction. kb