This is awesome 80grains at 4k fps. Varmint vaporization.
This is awesome 80grains at 4k fps. Varmint vaporization.
What I mean by a "gutted" die is, you take out the threaded rod that holds the decapping or depriming pin, and expander ball, and what you have is an empty or gutted full length sizing die, so you can resize the body part of the casing oppose to the neck and shoulder, and I said not to tease me about the seating die,
Dean
RUMs are like woman in Stiletto heals, you know they are going to put you in the poor house, but that has never stopped anyone from pursuing them.
Well I did a test run sizing 6.5x55 Lapua through a set of RCBS 243 dies, and am not impressed with the results. In order to size the neck all the way to the shoulder juncture, the 243 dies have also started to reduce the case diameter. I stopped during setup of the first round with about .100 of neck left to resize. The case diameter is being reduced from .275 to .270, leaving a .005 step in the case wall about .275 from the case head. Mission aborted for now until I come up with some better suggestions.
Last edited by Hotolds442; 02-19-2014 at 03:35 PM.
Originally Posted by keeki
Guess it doesn't really matter. If ya cant afford $15, you won't be buying much anyways
I haven't found a 243 AI set yet, but I do have a 6mm Remington die set here that I have no use for, I think I'll take it to work tonight and turn all but the last 7 or 8 threads off of it. That should allow me to neck size without altering the case walls. I held off on buying the 6BR set because I figured I could just use the 243 dies since they worked for you, so much for that idea. For now I'll shorten the 6mm die, and since my chamber will be cut with a 6BR reamer run an additional .580 or so deep, I'll order a 6BR sizing die. That should get me all set up for sizing. I've got a set of Hornady new dimension dies in 6.5x55, I want to see if I can remove the bushing from the seating die and replace it with one for a 6mm/243. If that'll work, I'm set for bullet seating too.
Originally Posted by keeki
Guess it doesn't really matter. If ya cant afford $15, you won't be buying much anyways
I got my hands on a set of 223 WSSM dies, those also worked very well for the neck and shoulder, you can never have to many options.
Dean
RUMs are like woman in Stiletto heals, you know they are going to put you in the poor house, but that has never stopped anyone from pursuing them.
You mean 22br dies don't you Dean?
204, 22 K-Hornet, 222, 223, 22-250, 22-250AI, 6BR, 243, 243AI, 6-06, 6-WSM, 250-3000AI, 270, 7-08, 7RM, 30BR, 308, 30-06, 375 H&H, 444 Marlin, 450BM, 458WM
Yes I meant 22br I fixed it, there is also a 6mm version of this wildcat that uses 6BR dies, and is a nice alternative as far as a 6mm wildcat goes, without having to load to aggressively, but still will send a 105gr Amax to 3300 to 3400FPS, it uses the same Lapua brass.
Dean
RUMs are like woman in Stiletto heals, you know they are going to put you in the poor house, but that has never stopped anyone from pursuing them.
I'll be starting a thread on that one as soon as the barrel gets here......Originally Posted by scope eye
Originally Posted by keeki
Guess it doesn't really matter. If ya cant afford $15, you won't be buying much anyways
Hey Shane I was getting over 4000 FPS with sub 1/4 inch groupings, with a full case of RL22 & RL25 and those 77gr sierras, the 69gr were even nastier but did not have a chrono, but shot just as well.
Dean
RUMs are like woman in Stiletto heals, you know they are going to put you in the poor house, but that has never stopped anyone from pursuing them.
Dean, I knew what you meant, but figured I'd bust your chops a bit on it.
204, 22 K-Hornet, 222, 223, 22-250, 22-250AI, 6BR, 243, 243AI, 6-06, 6-WSM, 250-3000AI, 270, 7-08, 7RM, 30BR, 308, 30-06, 375 H&H, 444 Marlin, 450BM, 458WM
Don't do that, I am very sensitive you know.
Dean
RUMs are like woman in Stiletto heals, you know they are going to put you in the poor house, but that has never stopped anyone from pursuing them.
Sensitive like leather, LOL.
204, 22 K-Hornet, 222, 223, 22-250, 22-250AI, 6BR, 243, 243AI, 6-06, 6-WSM, 250-3000AI, 270, 7-08, 7RM, 30BR, 308, 30-06, 375 H&H, 444 Marlin, 450BM, 458WM
Great idea and great write up so far, can't wait for a range report!
Looks like this would have a bit more capacity than a 22-308, is that correct?
Yes it does it holds 7gr more powder than a 308 based cartridge, I have 55gr of RL22 topped of with a Sierra 77gr HPBT, or SMK for those in the know, just waiting for a firing pin to strike it, If a 22-243 can send them 3800 FPS there is no reason with they extra powder, these wont exit at 4000FPS.
Dean
RUMs are like woman in Stiletto heals, you know they are going to put you in the poor house, but that has never stopped anyone from pursuing them.
No kidding! I'm temporarily seating bullets for the 6x55 in a 6.5x284 seater die until I get my 6br dies.
Originally Posted by keeki
Guess it doesn't really matter. If ya cant afford $15, you won't be buying much anyways
Just finished fire forming 140 pieces of Lapua brass for this awesome looking 22cal round. Used the Cream of Wheat method.
I'll have more to post soon.
BT
Anyone do any load work yet and get speeds of 77/80g bullets?
Haven't done much shooting with this round yet but I was thinking about the reloading dies necessary to FL size this wildcat case...... you can use a 22BR to bump the shoulder back as necessary but the 22BR die will do nothing for the lower half of the case. You can't use a 6.5x55 die to FL size the case because the shoulder diameter is considerably smaller then the diameter of this wildcat round.
So I was thinking when it becomes necessary to size down the lower half of this round one could use a 45 Winchester pistol die, maybe even the trim die???? anyone have a 45 Winchester die that also loads for this wildcat? The 45wm pistol cal shows a rim diameter of .480, the same as the 6.5, not the smaller .473 of the US cases like the 30-06.
Any thoughts?
BT
The shoulder of the 6.5x55 die?
Maybe....... it would have to match the chamber of the erroader. The taper of the case wall of the erroader is less then the 6.5x55.
BT
[QUOTE=BTSniper;286478]The shoulder of the 6.5x55 die?
Maybe....... it would have to match the chamber of the erroader. The taper of the case wall of the erroader is less then the 6.5x55.
Yes the 6.5 X 55 die, you said you wanted to do the lower part of the case.
Dean
RUMs are like woman in Stiletto heals, you know they are going to put you in the poor house, but that has never stopped anyone from pursuing them.
I have a set of 22-06 AI dies I can do a solid for you and see if I can get into trouble.
Dean
RUMs are like woman in Stiletto heals, you know they are going to put you in the poor house, but that has never stopped anyone from pursuing them.
Still.... the 22 errorder jacket taper doesn't match that of the 6.5x55 so your not going to be able to size much of the jacket without reforming it to the 6.5 taper?????? I'll have to look into it a bit more.
22 errorder shoulder diameter = .458
6.5x55 shoulder diameter = .435
BT
I took a piece of O1 steel and drilled it straight through them ran my reamer in just enough to size down the lower portion and base. Kind of a pain using a bunch of different dies but it works.
I read the post and yes it does work for seating the the bullet, I don't know if there is less run out. I don't have a 22X55 seater so I was seating them with my 22-243 Middlestead seater and it worked fine.
Dean
RUMs are like woman in Stiletto heals, you know they are going to put you in the poor house, but that has never stopped anyone from pursuing them.
Dean,
Did you try the 22-06AI FL die or seater die?
BT
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