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    Jason161
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    Help with my long range build please.


    Hello all, new here. So I am about to get my first long range rifle and I'm having trouble. I wanted to go the Stevens 200 route but since they're out of production I couldn't find a .308. So I figured I'll try a savage 10fp. Well then people told me to go with a .260 or .243. The only Stevens 200 I can find is a 300 win model, I'm assuming that's long action. My questions is, is the 300 win mag Stevens 200 capable of using .260 or 243 As its a long action? I can't find a short action Stevens 200.
    So I thought I'll just get the savage 10fp in .308.
    Can anyone please help me understand what I can use the Stevens 200 win mag long action for? Also with the savage 10fp, what are my options later on if I buy the 308 model? Thank you for any help and suggestions!

    I should add I hope to compete with this and hit 1k yards. Maybe with a good barrel one day past that.
    Last edited by Jason161; 01-13-2014 at 06:02 PM.

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    Yes you can convert to a 260 or 243 no problem. All you will need is a new bolt head.

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    Will the long action be a problem in doing so? What are the disadvantages of using the Stevens 200 long actions vs the short action?

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    i have a long action 243 build on a 110 (same as long action 200). feeds perfectly. and you can seat your bullets out farther and get better capacity and possibly better accuracy. You will have to change out the bolt fact though to accept a standard cartridge instead of magnum. Easy to switch, takes 5 minutes. Cost about 25$

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    Only disadvantage IMO is less room to mount the scope if you aren't using a rail. I build everything on long actions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason161 View Post
    Will the long action be a problem in doing so? What are the disadvantages of using the Stevens 200 long actions vs the short action?
    The only disadvantages are its longer and a little heavier. I prefer long actions on short cartridges unless im trying to save wieght. On a 243 or 260 you wont have feeding issues

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    Thank you all. If I can get it less then $400 I'll do it then, otherwise I'll go the 10fp.
    I read also there isn't many stock options for a long action savage, how true is that now as this post was older 2012?
    One other thing, I have not been able to find the right bolt face in stock anywhere, anybody know where I can get one for 243 or 260?


    Also would I be able to change the stevens to a 308? Or will long action not work with 308.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason161 View Post
    Thank you all. If I can get it less then $400 I'll do it them
    N, otherwise I'll go the 10fp.
    I read also there isn't many stock options for a long action savage, how true is that now as this post was older 2012?
    One other thing, I have not been able to find the right bolt face in stock anywhere, anybody know where I can get one for 243 or 260?
    There hard to find in stock, and yes stock is slightly limited for long actions. Check out Bell and carlson medalists or choate tacticals. Man, if i were you i would just walk into a pawn shop and buy a used savage 110 in 30-06 for 250$. they are everywhere. Bolt face solved, save money, exact same action

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    Not a lot of pawn shops that have stock in California where I'm at...

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    Another option would be to become a paid member here and buy a used action (long or short))and buy a high quality barrel, trigger and stock.

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    you should be able to find a used 110 or Stevens 200 in 30-06 or 270. Just give some shops around a call. I think your shooting yourself in the foot buying a brand new Stevens 200 for 400$ with the wrong bolt face IMHO.

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    Okay thanks for your honesty.
    If I wanted to just step it up and go with the Savage 10Fp, is that a good base for a sub moa long range rifle? Can it hit 1k yards in 308?
    Since its short action could I change if to 260 with a new barrel?

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    The 10fp.308 will get to 1000 with the right bullets, but if you plan on shooting competitively at 1000 there are much better calibers than .308.

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    Yes it's a great rifle and a 260 barrel will screw on and uses the same bolt head as 308

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    I do know that 260 would be better however 308 is cheaper and nice to learn on I hear. Any problems shooting 260 with the short action 10fp?
    Thank you all BTW, I'm glad I found this forum. Definitely going to become paid. The problem is this is personal for me as if was a goal/plan of a buddy of mine and myself to build and shoot in the marines, however now its just me so its kinda personal I do it like we planned.
    I though Remington 700 but I like the idea of own work as I like building 1911s. Free float bolt face too and price is right, savage 10fp supposedly more accurate out of box too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason161 View Post
    I do know that 260 would be better however 308 is cheaper and nice to learn on I hear. Any problems shooting 260 with the short action 10fp?
    Thank you all BTW, I'm glad I found this forum. Definitely going to become paid. The problem is this is personal for me as if was a goal/plan of a buddy of mine and myself to build and shoot in the marines, however now its just me so its kinda personal I do it like we planned.
    I though Remington 700 but I like the idea of own work as I like building 1911s. Free float bolt face too and price is right, savage 10fp supposedly more accurate out of box too!
    If you want to build one , get a used 110 or 200 action or a used full rifle then build hat you want. Get the 10 go if you just want one to shoot out of the box. You won't have any issues with a 260 in a short action

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    Thanks!

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    Look at the Hog Hunter in 308. Available new for 400-450. Heavy, threaded barrel for accuracy and quiet if you ever move out of the nanny state. Buy a 260 barrel later on along with a go- no go gauge for it and you can swap barrels back and forth since the 260 and 308 both share the same headspace gauge. Now you have 2 very different guns for a very reasonable price. Shoot the 308 for plinking, and swap to the 260 for competition.
    Originally Posted by keeki
    Guess it doesn't really matter. If ya cant afford $15, you won't be buying much anyways

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    Is that the same savage 10 action? If so at that price why would anyone go with the 10fp? What's so different about it?


    Quote Originally Posted by Hotolds442 View Post
    Look at the Hog Hunter in 308. Available new for 400-450. Heavy, threaded barrel for accuracy and quiet if you ever move out of the nanny state. Buy a 260 barrel later on along with a go- no go gauge for it and you can swap barrels back and forth since the 260 and 308 both share the same headspace gauge. Now you have 2 very different guns for a very reasonable price. Shoot the 308 for plinking, and swap to the 260 for competition.

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    Same action, accu-trigger, non accu-stock. It's about the best value in a precision platform out there.
    The 10fp adds 2" of barrel length, and a second swivel stud up front.
    for $200 more MSRP
    Originally Posted by keeki
    Guess it doesn't really matter. If ya cant afford $15, you won't be buying much anyways

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    Are the stock iron sights easily removable on the hog hunter? I really dont like those. Thanks for info. The 10fp has a nicer stock though. I hear bedded its perfectly usable in a 1k yard rifle. Although eventually I'd want to updrade to a mcmillian a5 or so!ething similiar looking, not set on mcmillian.

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    Very easy to remove. They're screwed on. If you're already planning on upgrading the stock, then you're not really missing anything with the stock difference long term.
    Originally Posted by keeki
    Guess it doesn't really matter. If ya cant afford $15, you won't be buying much anyways

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    True true.. Is this limited in any way as far as stock options or parts compared to the 10?
    I guess I'm having a hard time understanding why people would go with a 10fp or similar when you can get the same with the 11 hog hunter And have money to make it why you want left over. What am I not seeing here?
    I was hoping to find a 308 Stevens 200 but decided on the 10 FP but this has me really thinmimg now! Is this barrel good enough with a nice bedded stock to compete in a 1000 yard match? For fun !

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    I've been reading some and come to the conclusion that the 20" barrel is capable, and there are some stock choices that I like. I guess this would be no different then starting with a Stevens 200 but with a better stock barrel. The savage 10-FP has a decent stock and I wouldn't mind keeping it for a while, and from what I understand it has a better barrel width, heavier, then the hog hunter and also 22" instead. Hard choice as I do want to eventually get a new stock, but I want to be able to shoot out of box really well, not sure if the hog hunter barrel is capable of 1k as its not a heavy barrel like the 10-FP. I know the 20" is fine for it. Anyone else weigh on for me here?

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    I'm pretty sure that the 10fp's trigger can be adjusted down to 1.5 pounds, the hog hunter 2.5 pounds, not much difference. If I had to do everything over again I would get the hog hunter as a base rifle and build off of that.

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