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    5.56 in 223 Savage bolt rifle.

    I just finished putting together a 223 Savage for my 10 yr old. I have some 5.56 55 gr FMJ ammo. Only factory stuff I could find. I know the difference in throating of the 223 and the 5.56. These are 55 bullets. I will measure the distance to the ogive tonight to verify they are not being jammed.

    Do the same 5.56/223 issue exist in bolt guns that everyone is so concerned about for the ARs? I am shooting this to just sight the rifle and have a few fired rounds to set the headspace on my dies. I will reload everything from that point on using my existing LC brass.

    Thanks, Tim

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    Please do a search. There are numerous, well, at least several, threads on this exact question and they go on and on. There are people with strong opinions who have weighed in on different sides of the issue. Search and you shall find.

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    You have something like Federal Lake or NATO surplus? I have several AR's and have used surplus stuff, my opinion is because of the thicker cases I'd be a little careful with the ball stuff being a hot load in a thicker (smaller volume) case. I stay away from anything non-brass and lacquer-coated. Shouldn't be too hard to find out if your rifle/barrel can chamber 5.56 I would think. I've had very good results with PRVI partizan stuff, IMO one of the best of the "bargain-basement" class of surplus ammos which I've grouped through my AR almost as well as v-max. My guess is you'd be fine with a plain-jane 55 gr fmj--but I'm no expert and do not own a savage bolt-action 223.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomae View Post
    Please do a search. There are numerous, well, at least several, threads on this exact question and they go on and on. There are people with strong opinions who have weighed in on different sides of the issue. Search and you shall find.
    Well the search engine doesn't work like it used to. I tried "5.56 ammo" and "5.56 in 223 chamber" and didn't see anything on the topic that matched before I posted my first post. I went back and to search other topics I have posted and couldn't even find them.

    I have seen this discussion multiple times and never bothered to read it because I am not a AR fan and typically never mess with Mil-Spec 5.56 ammo. I just can't buy any local 223 rounds because of the hoarders. The difference seems to be the pressure difference of the 5.56 being higher than the 223 by 7,000 psi or so and that the 5.56 is typically throated much longer. Well I have measure the distance to the lands with 52 gr Bergers in this factory 223 chamber. The bullet barely stays in the case, maybe 0.150". There is no way that a 55 FMJ is going to be jammed in this chamber.

    If pressure is the issue, them how does a 223 Wylde allow one to shot 223 or 5.56 in the same barrel. I have seen this done by several people with no issues (key word) yet.

    I will just load up some LC brass I have laying around to set and fire a couple of loads to sight the rifle and get a headspace measure so I can adjust my dies.

    Tim

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    tiny, bided is on the $$ good information on savage chamber and about the ammo, 5.56 vs 223.

    I haved the asked the same, what I found helpful was:

    1. sharpshooter responded that savage cuts their 223 bit longer than a pure 223
    2. other users have reported that they have shot many hundreds of 5.56 rounds through their factory savage 223 without any issues.

    If you are in doubt or want to confirm what you have, just cast your chamber and measure.

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    Per Savage: Savage rifles chambered for the .223 Remington are designed exclusively for use with .223 Remington ammunition. Use of 5.56x45 NATO ammunition is not encouraged or endorsed, and use of said ammunition in ANY Savage firearm chambered in .223 Rem will void the warranty.

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    Let me emphasis again that I am wanting to fire 3-5 rounds to zero a scope and have some fire brass to set the headspace but the bump on my sizer die. I will reload all my own from that point own. I wish I could just run to WM and by a box of 223 Remingtons...

    I will just load up a couple and use it to get the gauge set right.

    Thanks for the discussion on the matter.

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    Let us know how it turns out.

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