Savage 110xp or 10xp for 6.5 creedmoor build

[taylorce1]

Taylorce1, what do you meen by "taking advantage of a larger case"? the lapua is bigger than the creedmoor?

If you look back a to my original post in here I said take advantage of the longer magazine and use a larger case like the 6.5-284 Norma (I called it a Lapua) or the 6.5-06. I don't see any advantage of running a short action cartridge in a long action rifle. I really don't know your intended usage of the rifle but the only down side to running either of the larger cartridges will be shorter barrel life and more recoil. The advantages are faster velocities, flatter trajectories, less time to target, and more energy delivered if hunting.

I guess I just figured if you were looking at the Creedmoor you would be reloading. If you are buying ammunition I'd just buy a .308 in a short action or run a .30-06 in a long action. I see no advantage to running a the Creedmoor if you are going to be dependent on using factory ammunition.

[johnny-bravo]

I don't see any advantage of running a short action cartridge in a long action rifle..

The only advantage in this case is less money spent on rifle, as i stated in my op what the co$t differences were between the long and short

I have decided to build a Savage 10 in a 6.5 creedmoor and for the base of my build have found the walmart special to start with, at one store there is a 10xp in .308 for $447 and is the short action then on the other hand another walmart has a 110xp in the 7mm mag long action but its discounted for $397

I guess I just figured if you were looking at the Creedmoor you would be reloading.

Who said i didnt....? I actually have been buying reloading equipment so i can work up my own loads like the rest

If you are buying ammunition I'd just buy a .308 in a short action or run a .30-06 in a long action.

I have a Remington 700 in the .308 another one in a .300blk and a third in a 300WM(LA) also the Ruger M77 mark II in a .270, got all my actions covered already, now just building for fun besides I was under the impression that Hornady came out with the 6.5 creedmoor just so they can create unrivled factory "MATCH" ammo for it like no one else.... dunno, I could be wrong

[taylorce1]

The only advantage in this case is less money spent on rifle, as i stated in my op what the co$t differences were between the long and short

I got that you were saving money by buying a LA, my point is you have the magazine space why not use it? There isn't going to be any difference in the cost of the new barrel. Plus there isn't a huge difference in the cost of components.

Who said i didnt....? I actually have been buying reloading equipment so i can work up my own loads like the rest!!!

You did with this comment:

I started to look into the 6.5x47 lapua, then i stumbled uppon this
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/949...tail-box-of-20
$64 for a box of 20..... YIKES!!!

A guy who reloads would have been pricing components instead of looking at loaded ammunition. With the 6.5-284 you at least have more options for brass as even Hornady makes it.

I have a Remington 700 in the .308 another one in a .300blk and a third in a 300WM(LA) also the Ruger M77 mark II in a .270, got all my actions covered already, now just building for fun besides I was under the impression that Hornady came out with the 6.5 creedmoor just so they can create unrivled factory "MATCH" ammo for it like no one else.... dunno, I could be wrong

My point about buying .308/.30-06 was if you are relying on factory ammunition, it is far cheaper to buy either of those cartridges than the 6.5 Creedmoor especially if you want match quality. As far as unrivaled "MATCH" ammunition from Hornady it is pretty easy to claim that when you are the only one making and marketing it. I'm pretty sure that Hornady came out with the Creedmoor just to sell more ammunition and jump on the 6.5 bandwagon. Maybe to fix perceived problems with the .260 Rem and the longish heavy/VLD 6.5 bullets in a SA magazine. "... dunno, I could be wrong"

[Jamie]

If I was using a long action then a 6.5-284 or 6.5-06 AI would be my choices. For a short action if you want a repeater then 6.5 CM would be it.

My point about buying .308/.30-06 was if you are relying on factory ammunition, it is far cheaper to buy either of those cartridges than the 6.5 Creedmoor especially if you want match quality. As far as unrivaled "MATCH" ammunition from Hornady it is pretty easy to claim that when you are the only one making and marketing it. I'm pretty sure that Hornady came out with the Creedmoor just to sell more ammunition and jump on the 6.5 bandwagon. Maybe to fix perceived problems with the .260 Rem and the longish heavy/VLD 6.5 bullets in a SA magazine. "... dunno, I could be wrong"

Actually, 6.5 CM Hornady Match ammo is less expensive than .308 Win Hornady Match ammo by a dollar or so a box($25.49 vs $26.99 @ Midway). The problem wasn't percieved with long bullets and the .260 Rem, it was/is a reality and the shorter 6.5 CM case will let you seat way out and stay in the magazine length. Not important to the guy who is shooting with his buddies on the weekend but very important to the guy trying to win a match or where quickness is needed. I believe the guy from Creedmoor Sports asked them to build it.

[taylorce1]

Actually, 6.5 CM Hornady Match ammo is less expensive than .308 Win Hornady Match ammo by a dollar or so a box($25.49 vs $26.99 @ Midway). The problem wasn't percieved with long bullets and the .260 Rem, it was/is a reality and the shorter 6.5 CM case will let you seat way out and stay in the magazine length. Not important to the guy who is shooting with his buddies on the weekend but very important to the guy trying to win a match or where quickness is needed. I believe the guy from Creedmoor Sports asked them to build it.

Hornady isn't the only game in town for .308 match ammunition like it is for the Creedmoor, and you can find .308 match for $1 per round if you look for it. That is why I'd build a LR rifle in it if I was buying ammunition. My "perceived problem" comes from the fact that several people use the .260 successfully with long bullets from a SA magazine everyday, Hornady just wanted in on the 6.5 movement. Nothing wrong with the Creedmoor, just not what I'd use in a LA.

[helotaxi]

My "perceived problem" comes from the fact that several people use the .260 successfully with long bullets from a SA magazine everyday

In short actions other than the Savage, though, they give up powder capacity and velocity and thus some of the long range advantage of the cartridge by doing so. The Creedmoor gives up nothing when constrained to 2.825" max OAL. If the Creedmoor offered nothing, it would not have caught on as well as it has. For the guys genuinely limited on magazine length, the Creedmoor can give them a touch more velocity with the longer bullets.

[johnny-bravo]

jonbearman, I have read many threads on the 6.5's, I guess its been a big deal trying to figure out which is best, I am getting very close to changing my mind to the .260 as it looks like it would be the easiest to get ammo for or brass for reloading. I was at the local gun shop and ran across the 6.5x55 swedish and added another factor to the equation....lol
I am still unsure which barrel i will get for it but I started this going in believing Im gonna do the creedmoor, Im not sure now but thats ok, I like hearing or reading others "real world" experiences with other cartridges