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    Want to build a centerfire (Tree) squirrel rifle. Need some input

    I hunt with a sako quad in the mach 2. i don't use the other 3 barrels much. Also have an Annie 1717 HB, Rem 541 T HB, Kidd barreled 10/22.
    Now that's out of the way. lol. It will be supressed. I want to keep the bullet speed between 1050-1600 fps.

    I have two savage 223's and a rem 204 i'm hopefully going to try some Trail boss loads this weekend so i might not have to build one.
    As per the stabilty calculator i dont think a 12 twist will work unless i can find shorter bullets

    My fist choice was the 5.7 x28 Feeding from a magazine, virgin brass issues. So it's out. Been looking at a 221 fireball.Just built a 300 blackout i have a lot of LC 5.56 brass + i could change one of my 223 with a barrel swap.

    I also just got my bench source annealer last weekend i've done annealed every piece of brass in the house.lol

    I've also looked at the 22k hornet. does anyone know if the 22k will feed from a 223 mag. I called a buddy of mine at douglas barrels he didnt know right off.

    Would any of the 17 & 20 calibers be a better choice? I figured with the bullet speed the 22 cal. would be better.

    Thanks guys

    P.S Help... I can't sleep at night

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    A 20 practical sounds about right,
    that's a 223 necked down, so plenty of cheap brass,

    Tanks Dean

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    Quote Originally Posted by scope eye View Post
    A 20 practical sounds about right,
    that's a 223 necked down, so plenty of cheap brass,

    Tanks Dean
    WAY over the speed he wants.

    Not sure if a 6TCU would fit your parameters. (6-.223) bit of a large bullet maybe, but would lend well to slowing the speed.
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    OK then go with a 223 and use H4895 powder, you can reduce your loads as low as 60% of max per HOGDON so that will bring your FPS way down,
    a 223 case holds roughly 27gr so 27 X 60% = 16gr and anywhere in between until you find that sweet spot,

    Dean

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    So what's wrong with the Mach2?
    "As long as there's lead in the air....there's still hope.."

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    How about the 17 hmr I use one for squirrel hunting and it works great if you shoot them in the head.

    P.S. it is not good to shoot center fires in the air.
    rule #2 always double tap

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    Is it legal to hunt squirrels/small game in your state with a centerfire rifle?

    In the two states that I hunt in, both prohibit any rifle but rimfire for small game. Sucks because I have a 110 cast load for .308 that is deadly at short range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpshooter View Post
    So what's wrong with the Mach2?
    Nothing.. It's perfect. lol I just need an excuse to build another rifle. Will a 22-k hornet feed from a 223 Dbm?


    Quote Originally Posted by M.O.A
    How about the 17 hmr I use one for squirrel hunting and it works great if you shoot them in the head.
    I used one for years. The Mach2 is so much better


    Quote Originally Posted by jaysouth
    Is it legal to hunt squirrels/small game in your state with a centerfire rifle?
    I see nothing in the Regulations.

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    might look over on http://www.saubier.com/forum.html the guys over there use lots of small caliber for 'little critters'. Maybe something like a Pee Wee or mink would be fun

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    I like the .458 magnum as a squirrel rifle. Of course, the squirrels are rather big here...and sometimes vicious!


    It is also effective on ROUSs (Rodents of Unusual Size).


    Seriously, though, how about a centerfire rifle (caliber not important) with a reduced load of Trailboss?.
    Or a 7.62 x 39 with a heavy (220 grain) subsonic load (putting the bullet in backwards can sometimes help subsonic accuracy).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Avenger View Post
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    lol. Thanks Blue: I googled it had no idea there was so many 14's. I bet that 14/223 improved is a smoker. lol I need to get a cal. Douglas has a reamer for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomae;
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    Seriously, though, how about a centerfire rifle (caliber not important) with a reduced load of Trailboss?.
    Or a 7.62 x 39 with a heavy (220 grain) subsonic load (putting the bullet in backwards can sometimes help subsonic accuracy). .[/QUOTE]

    I got a jug of trailboss, If i can ever make it home. I kinda work out of town. Sometimes i make it home for the weekend's sometimes i dont. i have 2 223's + 204 i'm going to try. I just built a 20" Douglas barreled 300 Blackout with a Liberty Freedom mag can.(see below) it's scary quiet with 8.8 Gr's Power pro 300 & 208 Gr A max


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    If your looking for reduced .223 loads, take a look at this guys web page. Now, I can't vouch for his data as I've never tried this, so if you do your on your own. (Is that enough lawyer disclaimer?) http://www.reloadingroom.com/index_files/Blue%20Dot.htm

    And on tree-rats, in these parts....we go in the morning and just look on the ground....and this is the sad truth why.....

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    http://www.jamescalhoon.com/ Has some reduced load data for .223 & .221fb. I have the powder here but have been working on other projects this summer, so I haven't tried this. Glad Dave shared that link. (nice pic, self-marinated)

    Had a .20vt, it fed through a centerfeed if using just 1 or 2 rounds. Just screwed a .221fb barrel on a striker and it is feeding ok. SSS suggested cutting a feed cone to help chambering, worked on both.

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    there is also the .233 case with a shotgun primer and a 35gr bullet
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