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    Action wrench for savage and DIY barrel vise

    Do they make action wrenches for savage actions? I saw one for a remmy 700, will that fit a savage? (to me it looks like it should work)

    Did anyone make their own barrel vise? how thick do I cut the wooden blocks? any details pics will help this first timer greatly :-)
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    Re: Action wrench for savage and DIY barrel vise

    The action vice for the Rem 700 will work. Instead of getting a barrel vice you may want to consider getting just a barrel nut wrench. I swap barrels all the time without a barrel vice.

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    Re: Action wrench for savage and DIY barrel vise

    Back before I ever heard of an action wrench and having given up on a barrel vice I was at wits end (happens freqently). Necessity being the mother of invention I did this; I found out how to remove the magazine box from the action. I trimmed a pc of 2x4 to fit the hole in the bottom of the action and put that in a vice. I then repetedly pounded on the nut wrench with a 500 lb hammer (just kidding). It finaly came loose. The wood held the action nicely and I could discern no damage to the action. Used that method again on 2 more actions, all on stagger feed actions. Never had a problem with those actions.

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    Wow, I would be afraid of twisting the action with that method, but I guess it is stronger than I thought. I put the action wrench in a vice and use the barrel nut wrench. Works like a charm even on stubborn factory installed barrels.

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    Re: Action wrench for savage and DIY barrel vise

    Here is an article from Precision Shooting magazine that goes into great detail about building a barrel vise, etc.

    http://www.precisionshooting.com/psm_2011_08_frame.html

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    Wheeler action wrench from midwayUSA and a barrel nut wrench is all you need.
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    Re: Action wrench for savage and DIY barrel vise

    Torchy,
    I think the wood thing didnt warp the action is because it covered or supported a goodly span of the action plus the actions are hardened. Its the hardening process that warps the action to beginn with. Those action with one exception were older and who knows what corrosion may have set in to weld them tight. The barrel vise made of oak was tightened to the point of breaking and rosin added on the surfaces for grippage (is there such a word?) I mispoke in the first post, I only did two actions that way not three. The third I cut the nut off with a dremmel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellobo
    I cut the nut off with a dremmel.
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    Cycler, get article, exactly what I needed.

    pdog, so I need to prevent the action from slipping while I turn the nut? no need to hold the barrel?
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    Re: Action wrench for savage and DIY barrel vise

    +1 to pdog6 works every time
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    Re: Action wrench for savage and DIY barrel vise

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    Re: Action wrench for savage and DIY barrel vise

    Quote Originally Posted by Stockrex
    pdog, so I need to prevent the action from slipping while I turn the nut? no need to hold the barrel?
    You can do it either way, but if the nut is really tight the barrel could spin in the blocks(and scar the barrel), or the action could warp(cause nothing is supporting it), or it just spins on the threads. Dont get me wrong, I have done it this way for a long time with good results, but also had a few barrels that I had a heck of a time removing. Along with some that I couldnt get off. I bought an action wrench and never looked back. Now I can change barrels on the trunk of my car, or tailgate of my truck, or wherever i need to(dont laugh, members here have seen me do this).

    Even though the nut is threaded onto the barrel, it still locks itself to the action and recoil lug. They are the two items that need broken loose so why not put wrenches on them. Plus you will not take the chance of warping an action on the tough jobs.

    Just to see it a different way, look at it like a nut and bolt you are trying to break loose. You put one wrench on the nut. Now would you put wood blocks on the threaded part of the bolt to hold it or would you put a wrench on the hex head of the bolt. and unlock the two?
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    Re: Action wrench for savage and DIY barrel vise

    I tried using a nut wrench and barrel vise to get my first barrel swap done. After much disgust, a lot of penetrating oil, a crow bar, dead blow hammer, four thousand and seventy-two profanitities, and the help of an old gun tinkerer, I finally broke down and bought an action wrench. Even though I had to eventually cut that first nut off with a dremel, the ones I have done since then have been a piece of cake. You will thank yourself if you get the action wrench! Oh....and also a 3lb dead blow hammer. It makes the job that much easier when you strike that nut wrench with it!

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    Action wrench + barrel nut wrench = best. Anyone who has ever turned wrenches soon learns that pulling square to the rotational centerline maximizes torque. With the action in an action wrench set it on the floor with a few 4x4 pieces under it and the barrel, jam action wrench into the floor, step on barrel nut wrench to apply pressure to it and whack the end of the nut wrench with a hammer.
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    Re: Action wrench for savage and DIY barrel vise

    Just to clarify; I dont recommend the pc of 2x4 method, it was as we used to say, a "field expediant". And I forgot to mention, I removed the bolt before I inserted the pc. of wood. As I said, this was before I ever heard of an action wrench. If I were to do it today I would definately use the action wrench.

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    Re: Action wrench for savage and DIY barrel vise

    Quote Originally Posted by Stockrex
    Do they make action wrenches for savage actions? I saw one for a remmy 700, will that fit a savage? (to me it looks like it should work)

    Did anyone make their own barrel vise? how thick do I cut the wooden blocks? any details pics will help this first timer greatly :-)
    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/710...700-savage-110

    This is the action wrench that I use in the following video. In the video, I'm working on the action for a Savage 10 FP LE, and I know it also works on 110 based actions.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPlFtskCwng


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