I was shooting some test reloads through a Savage 110fp, 308, at 200yds. last week. One 5 shot group came in at just under 2" but all vertical on the target. The rifle is the bull barrel, 24", I believe, with a thumbhole, laminated stock and a Timney trigger. I did a search on this subject but did not come up with much. Another 5 shot group was 1 7/8" and looked like a "typical" triangle. Is it me? the stock? the barrel heating up? The other 3 test loads weren't much to talk about. What do you think? ps. Sorry for the previous confusion.