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Thinking baseball when I was surfing the Savage web site. And lo and behold, the nasty rumors I had heard on here that they have all but cut off their left hand actions (compared to the glory days anyway) Business is business. But us correct sided get it again. Sure glad I joined the club (mdl 10 lefty) when I did 2 years ago. Now onto the used market in the future. Lighter .223 at that time.
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Yeah I am glad I didn't wait till this year to pickup another action. I'm good for now.
I think it just B.S. and discrimination that Savage cut back on guns for misfits. LOL :)
I need one more short, and another long, then I'm set. Too bad they've all but deserted us just to streamline their lineup.
It's a matter of too much demand and the inability to supply that demand.
Right now Savage is running at maximum capacity and are still having a hard time keeping up with all the orders they have. As such they've decided to eliminate some of the lower-volume models to free up some space in the production schedule to manufacture more of the much higher volume models.
I would also speculate that the introduction of the Axis put a big dent in the sales of left-hand 110-series models, because we all know how cheap those LH Savage owners can be. lol
Aren't you including yourself in that statement, Jim?Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Baker
Always remember that only "left handed" shooters are on the "right side" of the gun.
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Let me look around the basement. Maybe I have a few left-handed actions around here somewhere. Maybe at least one or two to build another swap barrel rifle. Awe, yes, here is another metal shelf of left-handed actions.
Had me worried for a moment.
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Turning your back on part of your core customers....always a good business model.
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Originally Posted by J. Baker
Who you callin CHEAP Willis??? LOL!!! Loved that stupid show in the 80's. Sad they gotta do what they think they gotta do. Guess if there is a GOOD reason for, as Shovelheadave put it, "turning their back on core customers", the fact that they CANT keep up with demand. This is one. For the good of the company, I hope in a year or so they can reverse that direction.
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The lefties is what brought me to Savage since all the other manufacturers with the exception of buying a high dollar receiver like a Kelby, Shilen.....I couldn't find a lefty.Quote:
Originally Posted by shovelheadave
This thread got me doing a search last night for left handed models just to see what was available.
Found a good price on a new 111 25-06 blind mag, accutrigger, left bolt at Buds for $360. Right away I thought, "I'll take it!"
Next, I ordered a walnut, cut checkered, left hand, blind mag, monte carlo, factory stock from Numrich...
I was feeling pretty good about myself. This is going to be sweet!
Just got an e-mail from them saying it was all a mistake. They do not have that model in stock and it cannot be ordered. :(
Thought maybe it was too good to be true.
Hi Hammer! I was afraid you were dead! (just kidding)
I was looking for a left handed action and gave up. I've never owned one and lack of options kept me with right handed actions. I ended up ordering a Savage 12 LRP in 6.5 Creedmoor and a right handed action. Maybe some day I'll try one, but today is not that day.
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If some of y'all actually need left-hand Savages (old ones with real barrel nuts) and will promise to do something useful with them...
Rumor has it that there might be some around somewhere. Maybe even some NIB.
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Sure was, hence why I was laughing about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hotolds442
No, a good business model is prioritizing your efforts to maximize the manufacture of the product that are most in demand. For every left-hand rifle Savage sells they likely sell ten or more right-hand rifles. Savage is in the business of making money, and they can make a lot more money selling more right-hand rifles that fly off the shelf than they can left-hand rifles.Quote:
Originally Posted by shovelheadave
Same here, but I also know business well enough to know that sometimes you have to make choices that will benefit the majority at the cost of possibly upsetting the minority. So long as the decision is being made for the right reasons I can live with that. As I said, other manufacturers have upped their game in the last 12 years since I converted to Savage's, and I'm not so narrow-minded or fanatical about Savage's that it would keep me from buying a rifle from another manufacturer. In fact, I kind of like the idea of adding a little more variety to my gun safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by missed
I read on another forum that Savage discontinued the model 10 FCP, FLCP, and 11 hog hunter. Is this true?
The 10FCP and 10FCLP are both gone from the lineup, the Hog Hunter still remains.
Amen.Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Baker
I've used Savage LH actions for a long time but with new and used LH offerings from Remington, Winchester, SAKO, NULA/ULA, Forbes and others I have plenty of choices.
Since the only part of a Savage LH rifle I use are the actions and the bolts they aren't even economical.
Try out a 700KS lefty and a M70 lefty or a ULA lefty and the shine falls right off of the Savage offerings.
The fact that you can find LH 700KS's for $1000 or less and the fact that these are already outfitted with a top shelf stock and a real 24" barrel along with a great trigger and you'll find that your Savages aren't the sweet deal you presume them to be once you add parts equivalent to what is already on a KS.
Everybody knew this would happen when ATK came into the picture. Savage wheels made out like bad dogs. ATK needs to get into the black and out of the red sooner than later. They will do it but but it won't be pretty. Just another Freedom Group deal.
When I bought my flcpk, the Savage was the only one I could find. All the lefties by others were not to be found. My next lefty will be a kelby, Shilen, or bat action. I love the Savage's for the barrel nut also.
New Savage owner here, a lefty. Finding used lefty's are slim pickin's in my experience. I have an older Rem1100 lefty that I love shooting in 3-bird shoots.
Been shooting RH bolts and AR's for years but finally bought a lefty model 12 FLV in .223 for my birthday.
After I found this site, I'm jazzed to learn that I could build a swap barrel rifle.
Now I'm on a trek to put together a 24 and 35 caliber lefty bolt action. I'm thinking I want a long action vs short, but that may depend on what I find.
I promised one of my boys that he can have my RH Rem700 .300Wm if I build a Savage. He wants to help and learn too, so it will be a win-win for both of us.
Being left handed in a right hand world can be tough sometimes...
Midway has several Shaw barrels in different chamberings in the $200 range, including the 358 Winchester and 35 Whelen. That's a pretty easy path to a .35 if you get your hands on a donor action. If you sell the barrel from the donor, you can be into the new barrel for $100-150.
I just got my first savage centerfire, LH model 14Ac, glad I chose not to wait. Getting a LH'er was one of the big reasons I went to savage in the first place. That and I like to tinker, and like the idea of changing the caliber and what not myself.
Heck, is was like pulling teeth to find a lefty rimfire to pair it with.
There are some cheap lefty rimfires out there but when you're looking for a high quality bolt action lefthanded rimfire your choices are very limited. Especially for Sporter style rifles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violentstreak
You have the custom/semi-custom offerings from NULA and the like.
You have Anschutz but most of these are target style rifles rather than Sporters.
Then you have my favorite, the Kimber of Oregon M82. Super great rimfires in every sense of the word.
Should be getting my highish grade stock back soon from refinishing and fitting of the metal furniture.
Been there two years or so but it will be sweet when it arrives here.
Don't forget the CZ 452 line. Incredible accuracy!
Inexcusable!Quote:
Originally Posted by Otony
You're right, the CZ 452 line is wonderful. Old school quality and construction and cutting edge functionality.
The last righthanded rifle I ever bought was a CZ 452. Superb rifle but it went away when I decided that unless it was lefthanded I didn't want it.
Always meant to get a LH version but I haven't done so yet. All my rimfire money and effort is going into my Kimber of Oregon M82 right now but when that's done I'll be looking for a LH 452.