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LongRange
05-08-2016, 10:06 AM
king the reason i asked was if it did have a DBM you could answer your own question by going out and running some tests with the your LRP...i will never knock a savage rifle because i have and can shoot groups that are smaller than my loaded necks with my savage...savages are/can be ridiculously accurate rifles but as LW has said when run hard and fast you will most likely have issues with extraction/ejection...the SSS extraction/ejection up grade kit will help a LOT but i dont think it will cure that issue 100%...you can always have the LRP in leted for bottom metal or buy a stock thats set up for DBM and shoot it and see how it goes....that will get you started and will also tell you if your equipment is going to run like you need it to.

Kingair001
05-08-2016, 10:44 AM
king the reason i asked was if it did have a DBM you could answer your own question by going out and running some tests with the your LRP...i will never knock a savage rifle because i have and can shoot groups that are smaller than my loaded necks with my savage...savages are/can be ridiculously accurate rifles but as LW has said when run hard and fast you will most likely have issues with extraction/ejection...the SSS extraction/ejection up grade kit will help a LOT but i dont think it will cure that issue 100%...you can always have the LRP in leted for bottom metal or buy a stock thats set up for DBM and shoot it and see how it goes....that will get you started and will also tell you if your equipment is going to run like you need it to.
Mine is one of these laser beams and love to shoot it !
But since I am not a gunsmith I need to go to one to get the BDM installed and buy some magazines
So this will be close to $ 3 / 400.00
If I get my Bolt Trued it's another $ 200.00 and how many weeks of waiting . . .
So that's investing a minimum of $ 600.00 in . . . and what will the result be ?

I really wanted to find someone who shoot these PRS or other competitions (besides F-class - there it works ;-) where you have to run bolt pretty fast and hard and see what his findings where . . .

Anyway LoneWolf already gave me an indication . . .

LongRange
05-08-2016, 11:06 AM
LW shoots the PRS matches all the time so id take his advise...i did and everything he has helped me with has been spot on,

again i will never bash savage but if you look at the PRS series you can see what the guys are running and there is a reason you dont see many if any savage actions.
IMHO save the $600 and invest it in a custom action that you know is going to function reliable you will be money ahead in the long run.

here is some reading for you to help you make up your mind..

http://precisionrifleblog.com/category/what-the-pros-use/

Kingair001
05-08-2016, 12:28 PM
Spend hours on PRB
And as you mentioned no one talks about Savage
Although there was a winner with a Savage 10T in 308
He had some trouble with his rifle and never used it again
IIRC he won another rifle - makes it a lot easier !

LongRange
05-08-2016, 01:02 PM
the point of that is i doubt guys would send the money they do on the rifles they build or have built if there was a cheaper/less expensive way to do it...i know i wouldnt of spent the money i did recently to build my new rifle if i could of done it cheaper...especially when i have savages that will shoot groups like these....

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brfussell
05-08-2016, 01:25 PM
It seems the Ruger Precision Rifle was designed for PRS matches. Does it work any better?

Kingair001
05-08-2016, 01:28 PM
the point of that is i doubt guys would send the money they do on the rifles they build or have built if there was a cheaper/less expensive way to do it...i know i wouldnt of spent the money i did recently to build my new rifle if i could of done it cheaper...especially when i have savages that will shoot groups like these....

Nice grouping !

Kingair001
05-08-2016, 01:29 PM
It seems the Ruger Precision Rifle was designed for PRS matches. Does it work any better?
Might work but guess you are in the same league as a Savage

I am pretty sure that my Savage LRP outshoots an RPR easily - both out of the box

LongRange
05-08-2016, 01:31 PM
yes its a good platform to start with but from what ive read ruger is coming out with an enhanced version...im not sure of all the details...theres a 50+ page thread on cal guns and an even bigger thread on snipers hide i believe...i have read of a few issues with them but im not sure where it was...theres a few guys shooting them in our matches and they do pretty well with them.

brfussell
05-08-2016, 01:43 PM
Might work but guess you are in the same league as a Savage

I am pretty sure that my Savage LRP outshoots an RPR easily - both out of the box

I don't doubt that the Savage would be more accurate. My question is in the direct application of a PRS match, would it work better than a Savage.

Kingair001
05-08-2016, 02:02 PM
I don't doubt that the Savage would be more accurate. My question is in the direct application of a PRS match, would it work better than a Savage.
Guess you have to do like me . . . give it a shot

You can enter Production Division

brfussell
05-08-2016, 02:19 PM
Guess you have to do like me . . . give it a shot

You can enter Production Division

Before I drop $1200, I would like to see if anyone has any experience first.

Rob01
05-08-2016, 02:22 PM
King remember in Production division you can't make any changes to the rifle so you can't add a muzzle brake or a DBM and still shoot production. Rule 2.3.1 here http://www.precisionrifleseries.com/prs_rules.pdf

Kingair001
05-08-2016, 02:30 PM
King remember in Production division you can't make any changes to the rifle so you can't add a muzzle brake or a DBM and still shoot production. Rule 2.3.1 here http://www.precisionrifleseries.com/prs_rules.pdf
So you are also pushing me to a custom build 😉


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Rob01
05-08-2016, 02:37 PM
No but just don't want you to buy a Savage and spend a bunch of money on it and then find out you can't shoot it in Production. If you plan on shooting Production then I would find a factory rifle with a factory DBM and something in a 6.5 or 6mm. You can shot a .308 if you wanted but the other two would work out better for your standings being ballistically superior.

Kingair001
05-08-2016, 03:16 PM
The only Savage - that I know if that has the BDM and muzzle thread - is the 10FCP-SR in 308 but has stock no muzzle

But than we are stuck with the 308 round . . .

I read on another forum if the threading is there you can attach a muzzle break

But waiting on a reply back from PRS

Rob01
05-08-2016, 03:48 PM
Well there was a post in a similar thread on snipers hide but unless you get it in writing then I would use the written rule book as a guide.

Isn't there a new Savage 10T in Creedmoor and a DBM?

Kingair001
05-08-2016, 03:50 PM
Well there was a post in a similar thread on snipers hide but unless you get it in writing then I would use the written rule book as a guide.
That's where I got it from but waiting on the people from PRS

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LongRange
05-08-2016, 03:52 PM
i forgot about Rob...sorry Rob...he shoots a LOT of matches as well and is in the know on all of this and is a well respected member on several of the forums.

LongRange
05-08-2016, 04:09 PM
not sure if you guys seen my post in my tread but heres the scores from yesterdays varmint match...this is not a real fast paced match as you single load and have 3mins to fire 5 rounds from 220yds to 850yds depending on your classification...note there are 3 RPRs one has had a barrel swap(6XC)but note Matt Cardin's score...factory RPR with hand loads...also note Scotty's score...he just got the RPR was shooting factory ammo and had no dopes...

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