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Rob01
10-27-2015, 10:45 AM
Well there had been a lot of talk on the new releases from Hornady over the past week as they keep it hush hush over the past week after releasing the news of an announcement. Well here it is www.hornady.com/new-products (http://www.hornady.com/new-products)

This doesn't just effect the hunting line of bullets but the match bullets as well. Not just Hornady's tipped bullets were showing issues in flight but any company out there who uses polymer tips will show the same. Now with the new heat resistant tips you get a higher BC and more consistent. As an example The 6.5mm 140 AMAX with a BC of .585 had a tested 800 average at .545. The new 140 ELD bullet has a doppler tested 800 yard average at .610. This is huge.

As for price, the street price per box shouldn't go up more than $1-2 per box. It will still be well below other makers. There is added cost as the new tips do cost more than the old ones but they also give better performance and the cost will still be well below other bullet makers as Hornady has always tried to give the shooter the best value for their money.

The 140 AMAX will be discontinued but will be replaced with the 140 ELD and they will also be loading the 140 ELD in the Creedmoor ammo which is great. These new upgrades are a new for 2016 product line so they should be out in the first part of 2016 is not sooner.

Any questions let me know and I will help with what I can and try to get answers if I don't know. I don't work for Hornady but I do shoot for them.

mikgarus
10-27-2015, 10:58 AM
getting server error from link.

Rob01
10-27-2015, 11:11 AM
They might be updating as it doesn't seem to be going through for me now either. I will check back in a little while.

LongRange
10-27-2015, 11:46 AM
thats awesome...ill give them a try when they come out...i like the price but have never been able to get them to shoot well.

stomp442
10-27-2015, 12:10 PM
They were showing some discrepancies in BC numbers depending on which page you were looking at I think they are probably updating things. That being said the new 143 in 6.5 has my attention.

Rob01
10-27-2015, 12:30 PM
The 143 is being worked on now and it should say tbd in the BC. There will be a hard tested BC out before they are introduced and I am sure you will like it.

Londerko
10-27-2015, 12:59 PM
It'll be interesting to see If Bryan Litz tests the BCs soon, and what he comes up with. I'm eye balling the 200 & 212gr 30 cal bullets.

Rob01
10-27-2015, 01:40 PM
I would be surprised if he gets much different results with the way Hornady is testing these bullets using doppler. They are using 800 yard averages for their BCs numbers.

Londerko
10-27-2015, 01:43 PM
Ya, your right. And looks like they tested Bergers and others using their method. The bergers look like they were as advertised and the noslers way exaggerated

basshawg42
10-27-2015, 02:18 PM
im very interested in the 143 ELD-X

eddiesindian
10-27-2015, 04:27 PM
I knew I wasn't crazy. I never could get any a-max pills to shoot consistently.
I guess Im gonna give there new version a try as well.

LongRange
10-27-2015, 04:56 PM
i couldnt get the link to work earlier but its working now and must say i to am very interested in the 143s...the only problem i see is unless hornady floods the market with these bullets they are going to be hard to get for awhile...a bullet that shot as well as the bergers and sierras at almost half the price?? im in!!

J.Baker
10-27-2015, 07:09 PM
https://youtu.be/VY3CKco6rqc

LoneWolf
10-27-2015, 10:22 PM
So a 6mm variant will be coming out as well? The 105AMAXs have been treating me quite well.

eddiesindian
10-27-2015, 11:17 PM
Im curious if Sierra knew about the polymer tip issues before they developed there tipped version. Not a scientist, but it looks different from hornady,s.

DrThunder88
10-28-2015, 02:29 AM
They sure make the new tips sound good, though I would expect nothing else from a promotional video. Given the already reasonable prices of Amaxes and seemingly fair increase for the new material, I'll definitely give them a shot.

Rob01
10-28-2015, 07:24 AM
So a 6mm variant will be coming out as well? The 105AMAXs have been treating me quite well.

I will check as I like the 105s in my .243 as well. I went to the 105 BTHP for a little more BC but if they get an ELD 105 out I would definitely go with it.

Rob01
10-28-2015, 09:17 AM
Well LoneWolf some bad news for you. There isn't a plan to make the 105 AMAX into one of the ELD bullets. Some bullets would not get enough BC jump due to their use and type to get any significant advantage in using the ELD tip/design.

LoneWolf
10-28-2015, 09:33 AM
So my 6mm tips aren't melting on their way down range huh? Sounds like marketing hype.....

Rob01
10-28-2015, 09:44 AM
No not hype but the 105 Amax does not have a high enough coefficient to be significantly affected by the aerodynamic heating. They are doing the same thing but the amount of the effect on the BC isn't as drastic as the others.

If the AMAX work in your rifle then keep running them as this discovery isn't going to make them all of a sudden shoot worse. I still plan on shooting my AMAX bullets I have on hand.