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icker96
10-12-2015, 08:02 PM
I have a .223 Savage 11/111 Trophy Hunter that I reload for. I usually neck size only. I have about 125 pieces of brass that were neck sized and are all prepped and primed and ready to load. I have a barrel on order from Jim at Apache and have a question about reloading. Can I use that neck sized brass once I switch the barrel? or do I need to redo it all using a full size die? If I have to resize, how safe is to deprime those cases with live primers?

The current barrel is a 1:9 twist factory shorter barrel. Jim is making me a barrel that is 1:7 twist and chambered to shoot the 80 AMAX.

LongRange
10-12-2015, 08:48 PM
You can try to chamber a piece and if the bolt closes load it and shoot it if not your going to have to resize the brass....DO NOT try to de-primer that brass with live primers...id shoot it or pop off the primers in the old barrel.

sharpshooter
10-12-2015, 09:15 PM
Full length size it with the decapping pin removed.

hafejd30
10-12-2015, 09:15 PM
Keep in mind if you chamber brass shot through another barrel and not body sized that it could get locked in the new barrel if the chamber is tighter. Especially if this occurs when the bolt is Locked down. Similar to a drill press having a taper to seat the chuck in the press

earl39
10-12-2015, 09:24 PM
Full length size it with the decapping pin removed.

THIS. Or get a Redding body die. I would try it first tho.

short round
10-12-2015, 11:47 PM
Before you install barrel drop go gauge into chamber their should be 0.125" to 0.130" of case sticking out of chamber. Now try a piece of brass & compare measurement, that should let you know if any adjustment is needed.

upSLIDEdown
10-13-2015, 12:46 AM
DO NOT try to de-primer that brass with live primers...id shoot it or pop off the primers in the old barrel.

For the record, I've deprimed plenty of live primers. You just go slow and be careful. Safety glasses wouldn't hurt either. Lol

DrThunder88
10-13-2015, 02:11 AM
It's not the safest thing I've done and for legal reasons would never recommend it, but I've done it too: slow and smooth. Of course I've only deprimed maybe 30 live primers in my life, so 125 might significantly increase the chance of ignition. I suspected a universal decapping die would probably be the best choice in case one did ignite, since there would be no seal at the case mouth or around the case body. Furthermore, if one did ignite, the ram on my Lee Classic Cast Turret is hollow and would direct the primer cup down and not out the side.

One can't completely eliminate the danger, but there are ways to mitigate it. This seems to me to be one of the hallmarks of reloading in general. The rest is the reasonable assumption of risk.

bythebook
10-13-2015, 02:11 AM
I have also Upslidedown, over the years I can't remember how many. You just have too take it slow and easy. Yesterday I took out 10 from 25-06 AI cases resized them and put the primers back. When you remove them move your handle slow until you feel the pin touch the primer then push easy and it will come out. The only time I ever had a primer go off was when I started loading about 45 years ago with a loader that used a plastic hammer too install the primer.

LongRange
10-13-2015, 08:20 AM
well you guys have bigger kahonies then me lol....i did what fred and earl said when i needed to pull some ammo apart once.

LoneWolf
10-13-2015, 08:40 AM
I had to unload 100 rounds and reload into new brass when I swapped barrels.

THE CHOICE IS YOURS, but slow and smooth and put your eye and ear pro on just in case. I even reloaded those same components into the new brass after unloading the old brass. A primer popping in a closed garage will leave your ears ringing though. That's why I say wear you ear pro too.... I won't tell how that story came to be. We'll just say it was a lesson learned.

yobuck
10-13-2015, 09:07 AM
For the record, I've deprimed plenty of live primers. You just go slow and be careful. Safety glasses wouldn't hurt either. Lol

From the standpoint of saftey, Sharpshooters responce is correct. Remove the decapping pin then full legnth resize.
That said i have removed lots of live primers and reused them but usually just in practice ammo.
Thats also how i check primer pockets in the big cases. If it goes in easy and i can push it back out by hand the case goes in the trash.
No point to prepping cases only to then find loose primer pockets, so i check that first.

BillPa
10-13-2015, 09:23 AM
If I have to resize, how safe is to deprime those cases with live primers?
Unless you need change the primers for some reason just pull the decapping pin and resize the brass as usual.

Whoops....bucky beat me tood it!:p

Bill

scope eye
10-13-2015, 09:33 AM
You could also just soak the brass in water, and pop them out while they are still wet. A 100 primers what are we talking about a couple of dollars at best you are trying to save.

Dean

sharpshooter
10-13-2015, 11:36 AM
Or....you could just follow Fred's rule of thumb. New barrel, new brass.

LoneWolf
10-13-2015, 11:37 AM
Or....you could just follow Fred's rule of thumb. New barrel, new brass.

+1 on that rule! That's what I stick too.

yobuck
10-13-2015, 03:58 PM
+1 on that rule! That's what I stick too.

But then Fred dosent do any resizing either in his guns. lol

earl39
10-13-2015, 07:57 PM
You could also just soak the brass in water, and pop them out while they are still wet. A 100 primers what are we talking about a couple of dollars at best you are trying to save.

Dean Hate to bust your bubble Dean but water won't kill the primer in any short order, maybe in a week or two but not overnite for sure.

icker96
10-13-2015, 08:10 PM
Thanks for all of the thoughts. This forum is great because of the years of real life experience and the willingness to share it.

I have removed my recapping pin from the Lee full length resizing die. My question is...what about the expander that is part of the decaying pin? How do I expand the necks?

Stickler
10-13-2015, 11:51 PM
Grind the pin off and buy another...... http://leeprecision.com/223-ez-x-exp-decapper.html