Varget powder

[Bunky-Shooter]

VARGET is my go to powder for 223,308 and 30-06 !! Best thing about this powder is no change in pressure due to temp. swings.. I have used this powder in 204 and 260 but could not get the grouping to close up... It still did shoot under 1 inch though... I would diffinently recommed this VARGET to any beginner in reloading cause it can be used in lots of cartridges.. I would share my load data for specific guns ... load-em-up shooters !!!!

[scope eye]

There is a small M&P gun shop in my area, and there is always one lonely can of Varget on the shelf, he always says it's my last one, so I buy it, even when that's not what I came in for, I am sure as soon as I leave he goes and gets another one, and gives the same sales pitch to the next guy.LOL

Dean

[darkker]

Best thing about this powder is no change in pressure due to temp. swings..

No, actually not in the sense that you mean, it isn't.

If you actually read Hodgdon's own testing you can see in most cases, the "difference" isn't statistically valid. And while they would have you believe that being "extreme" is universal, that is certainly not the case. Western has been somewhat vocal on this, and testing by Dr. Denton Bramwell shows the same. The "magic" properties are designed for a very specific set of parameters. Varget in the 308 with 150gr bullets, shows the touted benefits. Varget in the 223 with any bullet weight, is a streaming pile.. Doesn't mean you can't get good groups.

Just because the TV says that for $19.95 + S/H, you can own a life changing widget, doesn't make it true.

[DanSavage]

Are you shooting .223 or .308 at Odessa ? I will be there in spirit but most likely stuck in Buffalo for the weekend....

I think I'm going to give the .223 a go this time.

[DanSavage]

I'll be going in with this load I worked.

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a542/243Wilson/F-Class131_zpsa9978fa0.jpg (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/243Wilson/media/F-Class131_zpsa9978fa0.jpg.html)

This is how I did yesterday at the Clyde 300 yard F class match, if it hadn't been for the one flier in the 3, I would have got 1st place.

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a542/243Wilson/F-Class132_zps87c15f2e.jpg (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/243Wilson/media/F-Class132_zps87c15f2e.jpg.html)

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a542/243Wilson/F-Class133_zps5bbff7dd.jpg (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/243Wilson/media/F-Class133_zps5bbff7dd.jpg.html)

[cranebird]

hey Frank don't feel like the lone stranger. I went thru over 16 pounds of varget trying to get it to work in a 308 and finally got rid of all i had left because it didn't like me either.

At least you gave it a fair chance before stopping at over 16 lbs.....:nod: I must confess, patience is not my forte.......:rant:

[eddiesindian]

been using Varget for close to 17 yrs.... Works for me...but so does 4064

[eddiesindian]

Yep, I could not find a use for Varget, either.

Then I got a .308 and it's awesome! Just today I worked up a load of it with 45.8g and Sierra 168 Match Kings and Fed Match primers... 5 shots .257 inch at 100 yards.!

I was also getting solid, less than 1/2 inch groups with it and 150 NBT's out of that and another 308.

In my book it went from worthless to priceless in almost a month.

whats your elevation and speed?

[cranebird]

whats your elevation and speed?

Are we tuning 2 stroke scooter carbs or shooting targets ?:abnormal:Are
you saying higher elevation makes a bullet go faster because the air is leaner ? I'm at 1939 feet above sea level, probably the thinner air is not helping me think correctly.....:rofl:

[cranebird]

DanSavage, you need to empty your pm box. I cannot give you the report of seeing 12 cans of 4064 powder available like I previously promised to.Sorry....
Ivan

[DanSavage]

DanSavage, you need to empty your pm box. I cannot give you the report of seeing 12 cans of 4064 powder available like I previously promised to.Sorry....
Ivan

Just did,, is this for real??

[cranebird]

Just did,, is this for real?? Yes it is for real. Stop and see Vivian, she is the one to see when going there.....

[DanSavage]

Thanks cranebird!

[cranebird]

No problem Dan, I might need your help, found a go gage available to buy, thinking of ordering 100 Lapua brass to start with. I ran across a smoking F class rifle deal but really bad timing right now. Maybe after Fridays results, I might become a metal flaked Rem shooter. God, help me !

[fgw_in_fla]

No problem Dan, I might need your help, found a go gage available to buy, thinking of ordering 100 Lapua brass to start with. I ran across a smoking F class rifle deal but really bad timing right now. Maybe after Fridays results, I might become a metal flaked Rem shooter. God, help me !

Remington?

Traitor....

[DanSavage]

I've got .308 go and no gauges if you need them,, I'd meet ya half way, or can bring them to a match or something. I also have all barrel swapping tools if you need them also.

[cranebird]

Remington?

Traitor....

Hi Frank.

[eddiesindian]

Are we tuning 2 stroke scooter carbs or shooting targets ?:abnormal:Are
you saying higher elevation makes a bullet go faster because the air is leaner ? I'm at 1939 feet above sea level, probably the thinner air is not helping me think correctly.....:rofl:

lololo...actually, doing both. Overhauled lots of carbs, reset jettings, barrels, niddles etc in my 36 yrs of being a tech. nothing better than the smell of race 2 stroke oil comming out of my race ready KX-250 1st thing staurday morning.

As far as altitude and calculations of bullet drop?........... Inputting correct altitude into ballistic,s calculator is a must. Especially if your sending them to distance.

I shoot at 2 different ranges. One at a military range which is at 3800ft and 4400ft out in the Texas desert southwest mountain valleys.
I made the mistake of guessing at altitude and couldnt figure out why I wasnt hitting 6"x8" steel,s @ 1K. I quickly learned I needed to know correct altitude. I dont have a nice smart phone with all the apps to go with it so i oppted for a nice casio watch with temp/baro pressure/altimiter and last but not least...time....o.lo.ololooolooolol

[cranebird]

lololo...actually, doing both. Overhauled lots of carbs, reset jettings, barrels, niddles etc in my 36 yrs of being a tech. nothing better than the smell of race 2 stroke oil comming out of my race ready KX-250 1st thing staurday morning.

As far as altitude and calculations of bullet drop?........... Inputting correct altitude into ballistic,s calculator is a must. Especially if your sending them to distance.

I shoot at 2 different ranges. One at a military range which is at 3800ft and 4400ft out in the Texas desert southwest mountain valleys.
I made the mistake of guessing at altitude and couldnt figure out why I wasnt hitting 6"x8" steel,s @ 1K. I quickly learned I needed to know correct altitude. I dont have a nice smart phone with all the apps to go with it so i oppted for a nice casio watch with temp/baro pressure/altimiter and last but not least...time....o.lo.ololooolooolol

Thanks, I've still got a pile of main, idle jets and mixers and Boysen reeds left over from the old days. It was a good day when Bel Ray was burning in the early morning light. I'll have to get the watch....

[thermaler]

Are we tuning 2 stroke scooter carbs or shooting targets ?:abnormal:Are
you saying higher elevation makes a bullet go faster because the air is leaner ? I'm at 1939 feet above sea level, probably the thinner air is not helping me think correctly.....:rofl:
In general altitude density is reduced the higher your altitude. Humidity and heat also reduce air density.