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brasse
04-17-2013, 06:02 PM
I have my Shilen select match 26" Creedmoor bull barrel staring at me.

But I haven't been able to break the smooth non slotted barrel nut that came on the rifle.

I have tried heating up the nut, letting it cool somewhat and spraying with liquid wrench and other oils.

Then put on the barrel wrench and trying to loosen the nut. Just not sure if the barrel wrench is helping or making it worse. The wrench fits around the smooth nut with a brass band, the bolt on the wrench is then tightened so the wrench won't slip.

But so far it either slips or nothing moves. I guess I am up to about 75-80 ft pounds of torque. Half way tempted to put a pipe wrench on the nut and say the hell with it. I won't be reusing it right away as I have one of Jim Briggs "special" slotted nuts and his plate.

Going to try one more time once I get home, now in the fine state of Texas where men and girls learn to shoot soon after walking. And can you say BIG deer. My buddy Josh just had mounted a 13 point 150-160 pound deer.

JW
04-17-2013, 06:27 PM
Try using a hammer on the wrench
the sudden impact instead of constant torque seems to work well
Jack

Balljoint
04-17-2013, 06:29 PM
If you have one try a Dremal Tool

sinman
04-17-2013, 06:37 PM
How is a 150-160lb deer big? I've shot does bigger than that haha

Westcliffe01
04-17-2013, 06:46 PM
Agree with this. Load up the wrench with 1 hand as much as you can, then whack it just below where you are holding it with a steel hammer. You want to get a shock load into it. Kroil is pretty good.


Try using a hammer on the wrench
the sudden impact instead of constant torque seems to work well
Jack

brasse
04-17-2013, 06:48 PM
Actually I should have said I always use the hammer to break the friction trick. But it isn't working.

Not sure if I want to use a Dremel, the factory barrel is supposedly worth $100 or more (22" Creedmoor sporter)
And I have visions of it being one of my hunting rifles.

150-160lb deer was dressed out, not sure how much was left in the field. But sure was pretty. I hear you have to put a bag over the heads of SD deer, so ugly.

Just kidding, love SD. And that would be one big momma deer. They say 60-70% of the size of the rack comes from the momma and not that deranged in love buck.

brasse
04-17-2013, 06:58 PM
Need to get some Kroil, everyone seems to stand by it.

Tried the hitting of the wrench trick too, but I think I will whack it more this time. I may use a large punch and whack the nut a couple of times, then heat it up, then try the wrench.

It's coming off this weekend for sure. Already have my varmit thumbhole sanded out for the 1 inch bull barrel.

fgw_in_fla
04-17-2013, 07:09 PM
Last one I did I used a 16" pipe wrench. I didn't plan on reusing the barrel nut.

I put my "boyish" 190lbs on the wrench & smacked it with a 2lb hammer. Came right off after that.

JCalhoun
04-17-2013, 07:13 PM
I ran into that before.

Make sure all the screws are removed. Wrap the receiver ring with some sheet rubber and tighten in a bench top vise that has pipe jaws. Get a pipe wrench on the barrel nut and pull with as much leverage as possible. The barrel and nut may come off together.

The culprit is likely the polishing/bluing gunk that collects in the threads.

Nor Cal Mikie
04-17-2013, 07:27 PM
Remember, it's the SHOCK from steel hitting steel (hammer against wrench) that usually brakes the nut loose. Doesn't need to be "that tight" going back on. And use lots of lube.

pk01
04-17-2013, 09:39 PM
The stubborn ones I had I used the handle off my high lift jack as a cheater bar on the barrel nut wrench with action stabilized in a wheeler action wrench. Had to stand on the handle but they always broke loose. I found it amazing how tight they seem to get after a barrel swap and a little shooting even without doing any more than snugging them up plus a little bump upon install

brasse
04-17-2013, 09:48 PM
Once the smooth nut is removed, I have the best stainless anti-sieze made for stainless.

The lube/antisieze is SILVER and costs $280 for 2 ounces. But a tiny dot plus extra oil will protect the new barrel and nut.

Dam the biggest pipe wrench I have is 12 inches.

JCalhoun, do you mean also taking the trigger assembly off the receiver tube???

limige
04-17-2013, 10:48 PM
Where did you get silver goop at? Weve found nickel works best at high temps on SS but our rifles dont really get that hot. I think youll like that rifle once shes done. Id pipe wrench it in a heartbeat

limige
04-17-2013, 10:58 PM
I machined a piece of bar stock to fit the bolt channel. Something like .44x.90 or whatever it is. Then put that in the vice to hold the action. Ditto on a second msn with a hammer to shock the threads

brasse
04-17-2013, 11:01 PM
Silver is used by a company called Swagelock that makes high press fittings for stainless tubings.
I have used the same tube for 15 years.

The rifle was begging for a match grade Varmit or Bull Barrel. Jim was out of the Varmits, it took me less than 2 seconds to "settle" for the Shilen 26" Select Match Bull barrel

http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff464/brasse/MagStockysBrownSightmark5_zps0273c69e.jpg
http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff464/brasse/MagStockysBrownSightmark3_zps1a8d0bc5.jpg

brasse
04-17-2013, 11:04 PM
Hey I think we all want photos of that bar stock arrangement

limige
04-17-2013, 11:07 PM
Thats what i said silver goop made by swadgelockhttp://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e256/limige/20130417_230554_zps05aaefe6.jpg

Sweet rifle btw. Cant wait to see groups

limige
04-17-2013, 11:09 PM
Hey I think we all want photos of that bar stock arrangement

Im out of work in an hour and could do that. Based off the action wrench sold just capitolizes on the lug patterns ability to hold a rectangle piece of steel.

You just need a foot of 1/2x1" steel or SS and anyone with a bridgeport could do it in 10 minutes

limige
04-18-2013, 12:52 AM
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e256/limige/20130418_003622_zpsd141a516.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e256/limige/20130418_003652_zps60867b80.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e256/limige/20130418_003708_zps60b17951.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e256/limige/20130418_003429_zpsaacc83ba.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e256/limige/20130418_003558_zpsb58a3278.jpg

Simply clamp the bar in a vise using the bottom 2 1/2" and slide the action over the rest. Then put the wrench on the barrel nut and use a hammer to break it loose.

Now these dimensions worked on my reciever. I dont know what the tolerances are on them so yours may vary.

limige
04-18-2013, 06:20 PM
Any luck?
I could make a bar and ship if needed.