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Coyotejunki
11-20-2011, 11:43 AM
I have an older action from an 11G for a build.

How heavy of a tube can be put on these actions before they are just too much for the action? If I install a 30" tube with a medium Palma or what ever tube contour Savage uses on their F/TR rifle will that OK, I believe Savage uses the (stronger) single shot Target action with that heavy tube.

jsimonh
11-20-2011, 01:20 PM
I have a 28" straight 1" barrel on a LA and was told that anything longer COULD cause flexing in my action. I haven't had any issues with it. If I had it to do over I wouldve went with a 30" in a varmint contour.

barthmonster
11-20-2011, 02:54 PM
I have an F/TR and I believe Savage calls that a 'Full Bull' Contour, at least that's the contour at many barrel makers that matches it..

savageboy
11-20-2011, 03:35 PM
The stock bull barrels on the F/tr rifles/ target rifles are like 30" long too aren't they? I have a 28" Kreiger bull bbl on my 6brx. but it is nutless, threaded into the action and head spaced like a Remington. No flex there and supurbly accurate.

Terry Balding
11-20-2011, 03:45 PM
I have a Dual Port action with a 28" 1.250 straight tube, no problem.

It weights more that a 30" palma tube.

Terry

Coyotejunki
11-20-2011, 05:45 PM
I already have a 28" Pacnor in Savage varmint contour on my single-shot Savage action in 6 BR. It shoots great, but is a factory single shot and I believe it is stronger than the standard repeater/ 11G that I have. I'm curious though to the actions abilities.

I don't want to put a 30" tube on my action if there is going to be an issue. Though I am seriously contemplating just buying the Factory F/TR in 308 and running with it. It's already been engineered, and from what I hear, does very well.

barrel-nut
11-20-2011, 06:55 PM
Has anyone here tried bedding the first 6" or so of the barrel past the action on a very long(30") barrel to help reduce action stress? How will this affect accuracy?
Seems like bedding the chamber area of the barrel in Devcon or something similar would dramatically reduce the leverage applied to the action. Would still have last 24" floating. Would this compromise accuracy?

barrel-nut
11-21-2011, 12:06 PM
Btt

placek59
11-21-2011, 12:46 PM
http://www.accurateshooter.com/guns-of-week/gunweek075/

using a barrel block instead of bedding, - same idea though ( I think )

barrel-nut
11-21-2011, 01:07 PM
Agreed, a barrel block would probably be ideal, but a lot more complicated and expensive. This may be one of those "you'll just have to try it" things.

placek59
11-21-2011, 02:36 PM
I guess you can always grind out any bedding material if it doesn't work...

barrel-nut
11-22-2011, 04:41 AM
I guess you can always grind out any bedding material if it doesn't work...


-what I was thinking too

piroguejoe
11-22-2011, 05:38 PM
So a 32" med Palma may be to much for a 110?


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memilanuk
11-22-2011, 11:08 PM
a 32" medium Palma should be lighter than the factory 30" F/TR barrel...

piroguejoe
11-23-2011, 09:30 AM
Yes. but isn't the standard 110 less beefy than the 12/112?


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memilanuk
11-24-2011, 01:10 PM
Not that I'm aware of... the 110 used to be the 'base' model; the 112 was the 'varmint' or 'target' model, but nothing I've ever seen or heard indicated any real physical differences other than maybe fit-n-finish - if that. Same thing with the 10/11/12/14/16 series - the number seems to be more marketing than anything else.

Thats changed somewhat with the newer model 12 Target Action and the 110BA/FCP actions. The actions are the same diameter, but the small ejection port does help make things more rigid and stronger.

piroguejoe
11-24-2011, 04:31 PM
Thanks was curious about that.


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lal357
11-25-2011, 12:58 AM
good read i never really thought about flexing my action i just put a 30" shilen bull on my model 12 lrpv action should'nt be a problen with it being a large shank and single shot action. but ya'll got me thinking about my mod.12 small shank action i just put a mcgowen 223 barrel on kinda glad i kept it at 26" varmint instead of another 30" bull.

hcpyro13
11-25-2011, 11:08 AM
I have a 28'' bull on my 12vlp I picked up from Savageboy, not any noteable problems with flex yet. I doubt I would try it without a sturdy stock underneath it. I suspect the stock flex would be more of a problem than the action flex.

-Jake

dcloco
11-25-2011, 12:40 PM
Shooters hang 30" tubes on Remington repeaters all the time. If a Remington can handle it I know a Savage can and does. This is from experience with both. The Savage repeater I believe is a little stouter then the Remington repeater. I have a Varmit single shot model 12 that I believe would be stronger then the Target Action because of the thickness of steel around the barrel threads.


Actually no. The model 12 (99% of them - SOME are large shank) is a small shank. The Target/LRPV is a large shank - so, more thread and surface area.

Comparing a model 12/110 single shot to a Target/LRPV single shot/single port....the Target/LRPV would be the winner in the strength department.