Yeah, that's the way the barrel I just sold was, too thick for my project stock. I was not going to sell it because I have that LH VLP stock from Cliff and it was fine there. But since I felt forced to sell the barrel, I should sell that stock also, and go back to my project stock. I haven't talked to Sinman yet either. I wonder if Mcgowen can do both straight taper and two taper, or bell shaped as Jon from Savage-Barrels calls them. If I knew a regular "McG" (or Shilen) sporter barrel is straight taper also, that would be fine, but Jon says it's just like a factory sporter. That's too light. Anyway, you're correct that tomorrow I need to talk to or E-mail McGowen, Shilen, etc. Thanks again Mike.