Reply With QuoteLooks like he'll be off to a great start. Nice looking rifle!
My soon to be Grandson-in-law asked for help building a new rifle. So yesterday for about 5-6 hours we sat in the gun room and assembled this. I am hoping to get him to join here and he can give you the details. Its Brand New Savage Short Action, on a Brand New MTD stock, I supplied my old 12BVSS 22-250 Barrel, New Sightron Scope and Older Leupold quick disconnect rings.
I think he's a lucky man, unlike most of us buying a stock rifle when we first started shooting long arms, he is actually building his first and literally learning from the ground up.
Reloading rounds will be next. PSST "I think I have a couple of die sets and an old Rock Chucker he might just be given!"
Heres the photo of his new rifle.
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Looks like he'll be off to a great start. Nice looking rifle!
"Life' is tough. It's even tougher if you're stupid." ~ John Wayne
“Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.” —Mark Twain
I think being a crack addict would be cheaper than reloading these days!
Nice looking gun!
You spoiled him! That’s a heck of a first rifle! Nicely done by you both
Lucky young man. You are doing it right my man. I mean Grampa....................................
I am sorry, I may have mispoke.
Lucky soon to be Grandson-in-law here!
Can confirm I feel blessed to have lucked into having a new family member with such a fun and interesting hobby!
Definitely understand now why people say reloading and shooting can be such an addictive sport haha.
Looking forward to the next project day Larry!
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Had a tad bit of issues zeroing the scope on the new rifle. Back to gun room for some base and ring massaging! I took it out yesterday to see if the massaging helped. Mistake, wind was gusting to 40mph from my back on the bench. The darn target stand kept falling over so I used my Henry which was cased for added weight to the stand legs and then I added a drop trailer hitch on that. Only problem was I lost my paper targets to Illinois from Iowa! At least the temp was good at 50f and barometer was 29. Lazy to go the Jeep and get a pen, I pulled out my pocket knife to indent cardboard with an X.
First shot was low to the right. Tweaked the turrets and I think it hit the target. Who knows the way things were wobbling. So I shot 3 more. Still had trouble seeing it because of the wind. So I adjusted the front rest a little high and swung the rear of the stock just a little bit so the cross hairs were slightly off the indented X. I just wanted to see a whole outside the x mark. Took the shot, and whilst trying to see it through the scope a tornado force wind struck (really about 35mph) ripping the right side of the cardboard off the target stand. I hobbled like a duck with a long leg to get to the cardboard before it too took off to Illinois.
Range ended up was somewhere between 30 yards and 80-yardish! Who knows with the wind and my target issues!
With the ease of the zero the second time around and the groups and just shooting some generic built .22-250s with 50 grainers, I am pretty confident that my soon to be Grandson-in-law owns a rifle rifle that will be a good to learn to shoot on and also learn even more all those things we old people forgot and are still learning about shooting.
Funny know was at the range, not even those crazy pistol shooters!
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Heres the cardboard, I swear on a stack of bibles there are 4 shots there!
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Thanks for the update. I like follow-ups with a good ending.
I am sorry, I may have mispoke.
Great job especially with the conditions.
You range trip almost sounds like the one I had today Larry.
Took my CZ452 in .17 HMR out just to blow the dust out of the bore since it's been so long since I had shot it. Wind was howling, but it was sunny and in the low-mid 40's. Started out on the 100 yard steel plates and had no problem there, so moved out to the plates at 200 yards. Started in on the second smallest one, which IIRC is either 3 or 4" diameter. First shot was just a touch high, adjusted with a little Ohio windage and hit with the next 4 shots.
Changed out mags and figured I'd try my luck on the 2" plate. First shot I didn't even see dirt fly. Second shot was the same. "What the heck?" was all I could think. I knew I was shooting about two inches high on the previous plate so I decided to dial that into the scope and then hold the bottom edge of the 2" plate. That was the plan at least. Went to adjust the turret and the whole scope move rocking about 1/8" side to side. I then grabbed the scope and proceeded to slide it and the picatinny rail right off the rifle. Who knew they made quick detach picatinny rails? I sure didn't! That was pretty much the end of my shooting for the day obviously.
Believe it's a DIP rail if memory serves me right, and it fits onto the 11mm dovetail on the receiver and is held in place by six 1/16" Allen set screws that screw in from the top and basically push the rail upwards. The problem with this design (as I'm sure you can imagine) is that you can't really apply much torque with a 1/16" Allen wrench. In fact, once back home I busted the tip off my Allen wrench on two different screws trying to get them just a bit more snug. And given they're soo small and the wrench starts twisting and breaking at about 10in-lbs. I really didn't want to risk using purple lock-tite on them.
Most of all though, I'm just glad the scope/rail didn't slide off the gun and bounce off the concrete while carrying it from my truck to the bench. That would have been a real bad day, and likely the end of my cherished Bushnell Elite 6500 2.5-16x scope.
The rifle...
The nemesis rail...
"Life' is tough. It's even tougher if you're stupid." ~ John Wayne
“Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.” —Mark Twain
Weather conditions around here too have been all but desirable! Up here, SW of Milwaukee it has been cold and medium to high winds. Day time winds have been low of 10 with gusts to 35mph.
Jim,
Wow thats quite an event. As you said you are lucky your scope didnt bounce off the concrete.
My grandson-in-law -to -be watched me torque the screws on the bases and rings first time mount. I showed him because they are used screws that I would increase the torque value to 25 inch pounds vs the new screw 18 inch pounds. Still after all the times I removed the screws and put them back in I don't trust them. Despite it being a 12lb gun shooting .22-250 rounds and low recoil, temp changes do effect disiliar metals. The solution came yesterday in that I ordered a Patchmyre screw kit from Amazon and I will remove each screw individually and a new screw and this time blue locktite them in place.
Yes it may throw the scope off a tad doing an after fact replacement. But the last time I did it the risk was worth the reward knowing that in our temps of wide variance. The loctite will secure the screws steadfast.
Larry
I would never recommend blue locktite for base screws - they're too small. Use the purple loctite which is specifically designed for fasteners 1/4" or less to prevent the possibility of stripping out the heads if you ever have to remove them.Originally Posted by LDSILLS
The set screws on mine are maybe 1/8" or 3/16" major diameter, and given I'd broken the tip off my 1/16" Allen wrench twice just trying to snug screws up as best I could, I'd hate to think how impossible they would be to get out with even the lightest thread locker. I figure worse case scenario I can do one of two things...
1) D&T the receiver and drill the rail for some 8-40 screws.
2) Epoxy the rail in place permanently
Neither is an option that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside, but guaranteed to get the job done.
"Life' is tough. It's even tougher if you're stupid." ~ John Wayne
“Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.” —Mark Twain
I've only used blue on scope screws I KNOW I won't be taking apart. And then, 10yrs later I curse myself as I am trying to get them off. :)
Now days I don't since I tend to swap scopes. And not bases since I have to remove them to swap barrels.
I remember a rifle many, many years ago I had to heat up a receiver because someone had sweat soldered the bases. Somewhat common back a long time ago.
I’ve always used just a dab of blue loktite on base screws and ring screws for years with no issue….till a couple weeks ago…
Went to remove the Farrell base off my target action and had one screw that seemed much tighter than it should be and one other that I couldn’t get loose and ended up stripping the head. Since I couldn’t get the one out I decided to put the others back in and snug so I wouldn’t lose them, and when I did the head broke off of the one that was really tight! I ended up taking it to my smith and he was actually able to drill thru the center of the screw(how I don’t know with that small of a screw!) and got it to brake loose since it was now weaker.
So now I don’t know if I will use loktite from here on out. Definitely not the tube of it I have now..lol
Guys,
There is a trick to removing blue used on small screws. Use a lighter with applied heat straight to the head, tip of a soldering gun put on the head or in extreme case a heat gun.
I usually use a lighter and try removal. If it works great if not warm again. Be mindful this is a fast process as the heat will dissipate very fast because of receiver mass.
I had a tricky one in the past, I used my heat gun. It was successful but it dries out that extra protective layer of oil. So I rubbed it down good with a good gun oil after wards and let a layer set on it overnight. I suppose for 400 series stainless barrels and components using a heat would not be an issue.
Again the trick is to just heat the fastener.
Jim never used the purple stuff, guess I always forget about it and on my shelf is blue. Ill get some and throw my lighter away!
Larry
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