Yeah, a lot of people think I'm nuts.....LOLOriginally Posted by LDSILLS
The agenda for today is......Nada
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I thought we were all nuts, and not just the Savage type nuts. :)
Yesterday was a nada for me. Today was a bunch of honey do's. Hopefully Fri or Sat I can get to the range. Should be a little warmer by then :)
General question. My 6BR may be falling off a bit. Am thinking of cutting an inch off and recrown. Is this kind of thing worth it or should I just budget a new barrel (it has over 2500 rounds through it).
Yeah sometimes a simple re-crowning will bring it back, especially with that much of a round count.
My match barrels i will re-crown about every 500 rounds maximum.....Do you have a scope to see
throat wear and fire cracking ??
I think today, I'll punch the primers out and uniform the pockets. It's been my method to do this with
new brass after the first firing. Never touch em' again other then cleaning them. I did the annealing
last night, so that is done. All the brass process steps add up in time, and especially 300 cases. Once
done, I'm looking at re-chambering the 26" Douglas, and doing the 30" Hart blank. Both are 12 twist
barrels.
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Thanks for that. I am shooting it again next week so will make a decision then. No, no scope but I suspect the throat is worn a bit as well. It doesn't load up much with copper still. 5 or 6 patches of copper solvent and it is clear (when it was new it only took one).
Are you chambering both of those for the new round? Between Douglas, Hart and Lilja do you have a preference?
Both will get the new round. I've been shooting Douglas and Hart for years, and hopefully years more.
Only shot the one Lilja just recently. I did not like it.
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Thanks. I was kinda leaning toward a Douglas for my next one.
Perhaps You can get a Douglas Barrel Blessed by the Spirit of the late Stan Taylor.
Rest in Peace Old Buddy.
The last Douglas barrel I received in was sent to me by Stan. I had the ELF chambered in it, Plan is to just
deepen the chamber and have at it. Had some good conversations with Stan. Gone too soon.....
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A little update.....The Hart will be the primary barrel and is in the lathe. i chose two of my PTA actions for the
Hart and Douglas. Both I will return to be nutted barrels, and retain the stock red blade triggers. Reamer
has been chosen to stay within' the realm of short to short/medium range games, and mainly the 300 yard,
300 meter Tack Driver match's I'll be shooting this year. Made a slight tweak on the 300 pieces of fire formed
brass and have officially named the new cat..... 7.2 mm Greedmore. Still holds more powder then a 7/08. It
will mainly be used for 100gr thru 150gr class bullets of which two in between those weights are custom and
in development. Vhitavouri powders will be used and Hodgdon can kiss my ass.....Going to take a week or two
off. It's just been too cold and stormy up here on the Lakes to focus.....i will get a pic of the finalized wildcat
up a little latter on. I just need to find one of those empty 6.5 Needmore cases to match up.
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I've migrated to using mostly the Vihtavouri powders as well. I've dabbled with some ball powders (Win and Hodgdon) but they don't keep the ES/SD I want and longer rage groups suffer.
I like the name :)
Any special reason for going back to the nut? Curious as I am considered a nut conversion on the Howa.
It's more of being true to the platform when filling out the equipment lists. Same with the trigger, although past threads
and posts, I have never shown preference to any aftermarket trigger. I found them lacking and really no improvement
for the money. Fred Moreo's was the only one worth considering, but no longer made or sold to the public. Stock trigger
is more then fine by me in a heavy gun. Still looking for a certain case for a pic. Initial work was based off of prints.
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That makes sense. I guess many would assume that if you list a Savage action it would imply a nut barrel. OTOH, those same would assume a 700 action would not have a nut barrel, even if it did.
I will also assume you use bull barrels. I am considering such for my next .22 barrel. Other than weight is there any other advantage?
I use the heavier 1.250" max varmint barrels. There is about 6 to 7 inch's of straight then tapering to about .940"
at it's 30" length. I then clearance cut the barrel to fit the length of the nut. Barrel and nut will appear to be one
seamless piece with no step.....Post #30 shows this somewhat on a 1.200" barrel I used to fire form.....Stiffness
for harmonics is always a plus.
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That's a neat process. Another one that makes me wish I still had my 12x36 lathe
Found the 6.5 Needsmore case hiding out in one of the Kennedy's. On the left is the factory 6.5 case
and next to it the 7.2 Greedmore. Real close. the 7.2 has a case capacity of 1/2 grain more then a 7/08.
6.5 uses a 30 degree angle shoulder, and the 7.2 uses my standard 35 degree......I reordered a larger nut
out of Canada, and that came in. Too my chagrin, it's too big for a standard wrench. No problem !! I need
to modify a wrench anyways to slide over a 1.250" barrel. I have an old worn one for that. Maybe head out
to the shop for a couple of hours this afternoon......Still ahead of schedule.
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Looks like a good choice. I really liked the 7 08 when I had it (80's Rem 788). It shot better than I did. Made many cases from 7.62 brass.
Yeah I think this one is going to put the excitement back in it for me.....I ended up pulling a late nighter.
Things were going so well, I just stopped for a bite....Chambering is done, and a basic head spacing also
done so I could figure the cut depth for the new heavy nut. I did modify the old wrench to fit, and that
went well. I made the cut for the nut, and called it a night.....I won't get back out to the shop till this
weekend to finish up and get some pics. I need to check the head space clearance again to be sure before
pulling the barrel.....I'll then do the muzzle crowning and polish the barrel a bit.....Final step will be to do a
thorough cleaning and it's chamber casting. Should not be too much longer before I can get out to the range
and proof it.
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Sounds like a neat build Fuj', watching!
Moving right along.....I got in the larger barrel nut from International Barrels out of Canada. This nut has about 1/8th"
more thread, And a much longer no thread lead. This nut was what was holding me up since I had to do some special
machining using a 1.25" barrel. Forward lead, I cut the barrel to be a tight minus .001". There is absolutely no rocking
back and forth. It's tight when run up to the shoulder on the barrel. Next I had to put some clearance on the nut wrench.
The wrench I want to use does not slide over a 1.25 barrel. That's done. Had to turn down the nut some also to let the
wrench lugs slide into place. Either way, it's keeping the faith and still being shouldered.....Original nut gives you an idea
how much larger the new nut is. Chamber cast is also done. When I get some more time I'll give it a good check against
my formed brass, and see if any tweaking needs done in the dies.....Still ahead of schedule !!
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I like the longer nut. Wondered why Savage didn't do that originally. Probably a tooling setup difference that cost a few cents more. One reason I disliked being a corporate engineer.
I seen somewhere where someone had made and even longer nut that was hex cut instead of slotted.
Dave Hobeck had discovered this nut I'm using, awhile back. I picked one up but it had so much rock
and slop in it, I sent it back. I took a chance on it again knowing I was going to custom cut for it. It all
went well......
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Fuj', +
Just seen mention of the UBR Competition and it struck my interest. I know your are familiar with my topic on the Winter League I shoot. Well we are about finished with our 10 weeks and then there is nothing within 3-3.5hr drive of where we shoot.
This UBR Format seems of interest and something viable for the range we utilize as there is available 100, 200 and 300yd ranges. This is a public access range and they do host Sporting Clays Matches. They may be enticed to do this as well if there is interest and some one to organize and administer it.
Anyways, this is something I am going to investigate further.
Well it went well till it did'nt.....Test with 7mm 100gr Sierra, flat base Varmint bullets, and
Vihtivouri 135 powder
Set up at 90 yards because of the ground conditions. Wind only around 2 to 3 mph for the
bore sighting. Clean bore and no foulers. I figure the the bore sighters were foulers enough.
I mean I'm just getting a first peak, right ??. Either way, the first 3 rounds from a virgin Hart
shot a .200". Bolt lift felt moderate with the 42 gr. load.....However after adjusting to target,
the 42.5 gr load went to a harder bolt lift, and the 43 gr load went to a very hard bolt lift ??
Best laid plans, and figuring to start low went out the window. Going over my calculations
say's this should not have happened. Two things.....It's a faster lot of powder, or my bore is
tighter then normal. I will slug it today......Either way ground work is done, I'll start one full
grain lower and work my way up to the 42 gr load 2 tenths at a time. I'm thinking this barrel
is going to be a good one putting me in the ones......
I'll get out in a few days to further this after the winds die down, and get a few pics of the rig.
I need to drop 3 ounces somewhere. I'm over the 22 lb. limit for the Tack Driver.
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Looks nice. I had that problem with another powder, I think it was AA4064 in the .308. Loaded some up that should have been well below max and half way up the ladder it got 'stiff'. Went home early that day. I hate pulling bullets.
The good news is it looks like you have a good one. Was the vel where you thought it should be?
Yeah, I only had to pull 6 this time. Velocities were close to expected with the 100 grainers, I was figuring
getting too 3400 fps. Now I'll have room to find two good nodes between 3300/3400 fps.....Now that I know
where I'm at, time to get serious. Probably head out Thursday.
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