Rebarreling, which way?

[KMW1954]

I have a 110 in 6ARC that is going to be rebarreled with a Shilen refit. I just talked with them Tue and found what I really wanted is not in stock and was told what they do have at this time.

What I wanted was a 26", Bull Barrel, 4 groove Ratchet in 1:7.5 twist, SS, non threaded.

What is available; 26" Bull, 1:7.5 Ratchet Threaded or a 28", Bull, 1:7.5 Ratchet, non threaded.

So of course the threaded muzzle or the longer length add to the finished cost. Which is a big consideration for do this at this time. The bigger end cost is the Threaded barrel plus the then additional cost of a brake or compensator. The cost of the threaded barrel is $65.00 above the non threaded longer barrel.

At this time I am leaning towards the longer barrel. Good choice? If I had the extra cash on hand I'd spend it.

[Mcrider55]

If you're budget says one thing, I'd listen very hard to it.

[KMW1954]

If you're budget says one thing, I'd listen very hard to it.

I could put this off for more time to add funds but that won't guarantee either will still be available a month from now. Also looking to keep this build cost lower as I am not convinced this 6mm will be the solution I'm looking for. I may find the 223 which is what I have been shooting serves better.

Just looking,even with the purchase of a cheap thread protector the threaded barrel would still be an added $80.00

[Blue Avenger]

LOL Not that hard to pull it later and have it threaded later. Nothing magic about it that it can not be done locally.

[KMW1954]

LOL Not that hard to pull it later and have it threaded later. Nothing magic about it that it can not be done locally.

Magic, no, but at what added cost later?

[charlie b]

If you want threaded then get it. If not you can still get the threaded one and just not 'use' it. My 6.5CM has a threaded barrel and it will never have anything but a thread protector put on it.

I'd go for the longer barrel for a bench gun. You could always have it cut off and crowned later if you didn't like the length.

[KMW1954]

Guys all you have suggested is valid and things I have already considered and understand. What the issue for me basically is, is time and initial investment. Time issue being this will be used as a bench type rifle for a small local league that starts the first week of January. Then at present I have limited time to develop a load to use in this rifle for this league.

As stated already, I have zero experience with the use of a brake or compensator. From what I have read the biggest asset of a brake is to control recoil and rifle movement. With the program we shoot there is no time requirement aspect so we are free to take as much time as necessary to set up the next shot. So recoil and movement are minor factors.

Next issue is barrel length. This is only an issue because again of my lack of experience with it. If I were to be ordering a barrel I would be looking to a 26" because that is what I am use to using. So I question myself on whether the extra 2" of barrel length expense is worth any performance increase at the distance I am shooting. I could be wrong but I don't believe so.

So with all this and talking to myself I think I will make this a financial decision and proceed with the longer barrel. Which again takes into account that I may decide that going back to the 223 with a faster twist, as I really find it enjoyable, a distinct possibility..

[PhilC]

What distance will you be shooting? You don't have to use a device just because the barrel is threaded, like Charlie said, shoot it with the thread protector.

[KMW1954]

Distance is a max of just 300 yards as that is as far as our range goes.

Yes I could just shoot it with a thread protector on it but at the added expense of about $80.00. Which at this time could be spent on reloading components. At the rate we shoot for this league I found that even my 223 was spent after just 2 years. Sure it will still hold .5 to 1 MOA groups at 100yds but it struggles to hold under .5 MOA. Which is what I need if I am to be competitive. So I imagine the 6ARC will hold up about the same.

[KMW1954]

Thanks all for contributing. Order was placed today with NSS for a Shilen SS Match Select, 4 groove Ratchet, 28". non-threaded. Tracking # says it should arrive Weds. Included the Precision Recoil lug and Barrel nut along with a Headspace gauge.

[charlie b]

Keep updating as you progress.

[Mcrider55]

I'm looking at a new barrel and the Shilen is one of those I considering. Please keep us posted when you get it as I'm very interested in your thoughts.

[czgunner]

Magic, no, but at what added cost later?

Most smith's start at $150.

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[KMW1954]

Most smith's start at $150.

As opposed to ordering one already threaded which only costs an additional $82.50..

[czgunner]

As opposed to ordering one already threaded which only costs an additional $82.50..

I'm looking to buy a 6 GT...Let us know how you like the barrel.

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[KMW1954]

I'm looking to buy a 6 GT...Let us know how you like the barrel.

For certain I will keep updates.

Barrel arrived today, was ordered mid-afternoon Monday. Was originally set for delivery yesterday but it got hung up in Minn.

Started breaking the 110 Switchback down and found My Fat Wrench does not have the right size to remove the scope rail. Though the barrel channel on the Boyd's At-One looks as though it will not need any alteration.

[Blue Avenger]

Guys all you have suggested is valid and things I have already considered and understand. What the issue for me basically is, is time and initial investment. Time issue being this will be used as a bench type rifle for a small local league that starts the first week of January. Then at present I have limited time to develop a load to use in this rifle for this league.

As stated already, I have zero experience with the use of a brake or compensator. From what I have read the biggest asset of a brake is to control recoil and rifle movement. With the program we shoot there is no time requirement aspect so we are free to take as much time as necessary to set up the next shot. So recoil and movement are minor factors.

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not sure how range is set up, but shooting close to a brake can be bad for guys around you and lead to frustration directed at you. PS.. I like brakes but try not to use them close to others. Have blown stuff off the next bench.

[KMW1954]

not sure how range is set up, but shooting close to a brake can be bad for guys around you and lead to frustration directed at you. PS.. I like brakes but try not to use them close to others. Have blown stuff off the next bench.

I have not used one but as a RO on a rifle range I am more than familiar with the muzzle blast and the noise.

Last winter,during out league I was set up to shoot my weekly target. Range wasn't too busy and the benches on both sides of me were empty along with a few more down just a short ways. So after I am all set up and target is posted another league member comes in and drops down just to my right. He pulls out a 28 Nosler with a big brake on it. I fired a couple foulers and then he lets one loose. Bam, concussion and noise. I gave him a dirty if looks could kill and he then politely asks, "are you shooting your weekly target". The Nosler wasn't even his league gun. So I put my gun down, got up and walked out of the range.

I know this guy well, he is also a VG shooter but with that I lost some respect towards him.

[charlie b]

Yep, some people on ranges (and other venues) have no clue (or don't care) how their conduct affects others.

I dislike brakes for the reasons posted. Our range has shooting positions spaced apart by about 10 feet and the muzzle blast from some is still bothersome. The extra PITA about it is the blast will sometimes trigger my Labradar, which gives me a vel in the string that I might not be aware of.

[Mcrider55]

I've always wondered about the guys with AR's next to you at the range and then spray the shooter on the right with hot casings. I'm an AR lover, but lord, some of the people who own them are knuckle draggers. They show up with their with buddies, only have one or two guns, and 200 rounds of ammo. Good thing is they aren't there long, and they never pickup their spent casings...

I get to do that!!!

[Blue Avenger]

I've always wondered about the guys with AR's next to you at the range and then spray the shooter on the right with hot casings. I'm an AR lover, but lord, some of the people who own them are knuckle draggers. They show up with their with buddies, only have one or two guns, and 200 rounds of ammo. Good thing is they aren't there long, and they never pickup their spent casings...

I get to do that!!!

Two reasons a Brass catcher is always in my range bag!

[Blue Avenger]

An option for an easy to remove break when needed. Also allows swapping between barrels. Reduction ability's are very noticeable.

https://northlandshooterssupply.com/...-muzzle-brake/

[KMW1954]

Well the barrel was ordered back in post 10 and it is not threaded.

I did spend the afternoon finishing breakdown of the old barrel and this evening I did get the new barrel on. Didn't go on nearly as easy as the factory Savage barrel I put on a model 11. Every time I tried to torque the nut the barrel would turn and throw off the head space. I also did need to open up the barrel channel in the Boyd's stock.

Tomorrow I will work on some dummy loads for seating depth to find the max to lands.

[Robinhood]

not sure how range is set up, but shooting close to a brake can be bad for guys around you and lead to frustration directed at you. PS.. I like brakes but try not to use them close to others. Have blown stuff off the next bench.

That is why you always carry a 16"AR-10 with a break on it to the range. Pull yours out and teach the offenders a lesson.

[czgunner]

That is why you always carry a 16"AR-10 with a break on it to the range. Pull yours out and teach the offenders a lesson.

Yeah, I'm going to bring my braked 10.5" 5.56 to rattle rounds off when these fools show up.

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