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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie b View Post
    As stated above these are all just different ways of measuring an angle.

    MIL has become popular due to the military use of the measurement. Stems from artillery where they used mil angle to adjust the elevation and azimuth of the gun. The spotters gave adjustments in mils so all the military binoculars and scope sights were marked in mils.

    If have a scope marked in mils then just ask the spotter to adjust in mils. Same for MOA.

    Just don't get a scope with turret adjustments in mil and reticle in MOA. It gets confusing. :)

    I like MOA for shooting rifle just because most targets are marked in MOA or inches and it is a familar measurement for me. And, yes, I used mils for almost 20 years in the Army. Then I started 'shooting' lasers and we used micro-radians :)
    Thank you Charlie.

    Here's my FWIW decision...

    My 30-06 has long carried a plain MOA SFP scope with a simple crosshair. Nothing fancy but works. For HUNTING, rifle / scope are under MOA accurate and dependable. Proven. Something to be said for that. Shooting this afternoon, I've decided to leave it like it is. I'm good / confident to 400+/- ethical yards.

    The 6.5 rifle carries the S3 FFP MIL. For TARGET work, this will be my rifle. I'm deep into learning MIL basics and enjoying the challenges.

    Thank you for all your help.

    Cheers.

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    Go to YouTube and search for Ryan Cleckner video called "understanding mils". It should answer your questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whynot View Post
    Go to YouTube and search for Ryan Cleckner video called "understanding mils". It should answer your questions.
    Thank you very much. Will do.

    Cheers.

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    I forgot about that vid. Whynot sent you on a good mission.
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

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    Gentlemen all...

    It's a real pleasure to be on this site with good folks answering your questions. I'm appreciative. For that reason and that you took the time to post, here's an update.

    From just after 9 AM until shooting hrs ended, yesterday I worked hard with my FFP scope. H-A-R-D. Different power settings - different distances out to 300 for shooting and further for glassing. There's no question, the scope is very capable. Far more capable than I am. All that said, we know that the FFP reticle shrinks at the lower powers. The lower powers I use for hunting.

    For target work - absolutely no doubt - I made a good choice / purchase. But my personal scope priority is for close to medium range hunting. Where lower powers give me far better FOV - faster animal / reticle alignment. In hindsight, I should have stayed with what I've always used - SFP. Each focal plane has it's advantages and SFP works better for this older gentleman.

    With help, I/we made the SFP work well at LR shooting school a month ago. Where I first learned of the advantages of FFP and began gearing up accordingly. A short detour in advancing my shooting skills - good lessons learned. Glad to be back to SFP.

    Thank you again.

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