ST. PAUL, Minn. (FOX 9) - Keeping a gun in your car while on a Minnesota roadway can be considered being in a public place, according to a recent state Court of Appeals ruling.
ST. PAUL, Minn. (FOX 9) - Keeping a gun in your car while on a Minnesota roadway can be considered being in a public place, according to a recent state Court of Appeals ruling.
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If it is a "public place" then it is subject search without a warrant right?
A deeper dive into the nuances of this new change.
Here are a couple key screen shots from this video of the definitions as they now sit.
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One key thing to note in the above starts in the second line regarding, "repairing firearms OR of making OR fitting special barrels, stocks, or trigger mechanisms to firearms." Note that there's nothing here in this meaning of what constitutes a dealer that says anything about having to make a profit.
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Reading this one would presume that so long as your selling your personal guns from your personal collection you're safe, but that IS NOT the case as we see in this next screenshot...
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This is the "catch 22" of this new rule when it comes to personal firearm sales. As we saw in the second screenshot above they say you can sell guns from your personal collection, but notice that in that definition they don't mention any of these specifics that restrict what firearms are considered personal collection guns and which ones are self-defense guns. It also didn't point out that you can only sell of your personal guns w/o being considered dealing in firearms IF you never, ever, ever buy another gun - because if you do buy a gun in the future at any time, all those guns you previously sold will now be considered as sold for profit rather than the liquidation of a personal collection.
"Life' is tough. It's even tougher if you're stupid." ~ John Wayne
“Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.” —Mark Twain
We need to pass state laws that require ATF agents to always have visible identification when in public! They want to change gun laws lets have them stop their sneaky ways of enforcement.
This one convers some common questions received in the comments of the last couple videos from them on this subject.
"Life' is tough. It's even tougher if you're stupid." ~ John Wayne
“Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.” —Mark Twain
**UPDATE**
Now that we've had a few weeks to dig into this 400+ page assault on our personal property freedoms by the ATF and the DOJ to better understand it and how it's going to affect things going forward, I have decided against the previously proposed rule change and instead am just going to just add a sticky to each of the classified boards to remind everyone that their selling of an action or complete firearm MAY put them in the crosshairs of the ATF/DOJ for "engaging in the business" of selling firearms without an FFL.
It is solely YOUR responsibility to ensure YOU are acting within the law under the premise of these new rules/regulations as defined and explained within the published document linked to below.
This change goes into effect on May 20, 2024.
Published Text: https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...er-in-firearms
"Life' is tough. It's even tougher if you're stupid." ~ John Wayne
“Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.” —Mark Twain
As of earlier today, both the Attorney Generals of Arkansas and Texas have filed lawsuits against the Biden Administration and specifically the ATF over the rule change we've been discussing here. Here are the press conferences from both A.G.'s.
"Life' is tough. It's even tougher if you're stupid." ~ John Wayne
“Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.” —Mark Twain
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