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    Spectacular Savage Model 1899 coming up for auction


    https://www.rockislandauction.com/de...action-carbine

    This carbine, with a preauction estimate of $6500 to $9500 is surely spectacular, right?

    Except the lower tang is proud to the wood, and not the other way around, and there’s an obvious repaired crack at the wrist.

    I would like to see more photographs, but a possible reblue and the lever is likely recasecoloured. So, 6500 to 9500 seems about right to me—in dimes! ($650 to $950)

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    As much as I like my .38-55, I'd sell it for that price!!

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    I should also have said the wood is obviously refinished as well. The only thing going for this rifle is that it’s in .38-55. I alluded to this by stating the lower tang is proud to the wood.

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    They're definitely dreaming with that estimated price. I could buy a couple 99's that are far rarer than that one (one in 22-250 Rem and one in 32-40 Win.) that are unmolested rather than refurbished that are listed on Guns International right now for around $6k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBojangles View Post
    I should also have said the wood is obviously refinished as well. The only thing going for this rifle is that it’s in .38-55. I alluded to this by stating the lower tang is proud to the wood.
    noticed that, no way you could not if you have any knowledge on that subject.
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    And this carbine just hammered at $6,000! And that’s prior to any buyer’s premium, sales tax, shipping & insurance, and FFL fees. And, don’t forget the wrist had been cracked and repaired. Plus everything else wrong with it as mentioned previously.

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    Held the gun. I agree the stock had been lightly sanded and refinished, but could not see any repaired cracks in the wrist. The receiver also hadn't been refinished, that's original.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalhounRR View Post
    Held the gun. I agree the stock had been lightly sanded and refinished, but could not see any repaired cracks in the wrist. The receiver also hadn't been refinished, that's original.
    The fit of the stock to lower tang was extremely poor.

    Not worth anywhere near the hammer price.

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    Somebody thought it was. I mean, how often does any SRC in 38-55 come up? But yes, more than I was guessing.

    No mention of the stock and barrel being replaced (almost surely factory work, but not from 1914) on the highly engraved Colonel Hayward 1899H was a bigger problem in my opinion. That sold at $18,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalhounRR View Post
    Somebody thought it was. I mean, how often does any SRC in 38-55 come up? But yes, more than I was guessing.

    No mention of the stock and barrel being replaced (almost surely factory work, but not from 1914) on the highly engraved Colonel Hayward 1899H was a bigger problem in my opinion. That sold at $18,000.
    What were the problems with that one?

    https://www.rockislandauction.com/de...del-1899-rifle

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    Well, if it is a 1914 rifle then it should have a perchbelly buttstock - but this one is straight. And a 1914 1899H barrel would have a short base front integral sight, this has the longer base seen from 1925/1926'ish.

    They pulled the forearm, and it has a 1924 serial number stamped on it - as well as the original. So the rifle probably went back to Savage sometime in 1924-1926 and was restocked and rebarreled. Does not appear to have had the receiver refinished since it has the mirror blue, but Enoch Tue was still around 1924-1926.. so who'd be able to tell??


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    Quote Originally Posted by CalhounRR View Post
    Well, if it is a 1914 rifle then it should have a perchbelly buttstock - but this one is straight. And a 1914 1899H barrel would have a short base front integral sight, this has the longer base seen from 1925/1926'ish.

    They pulled the forearm, and it has a 1924 serial number stamped on it - as well as the original. So the rifle probably went back to Savage sometime in 1924-1926 and was restocked and rebarreled. Does not appear to have had the receiver refinished since it has the mirror blue, but Enoch Tue was still around 1924-1926.. so who'd be able to tell??

    I didn’t look at this rifle all that closely because it’s out of my pay grade.

    BUT, you would think that what you disclosed would have been mentioned in the description as to the condition of this rifle???

    I avoid RIA. Too many deep pockets, descriptions that are lacking with regards to condition (as is the case with this rifle), and lots of “fluff” with regards to the write up of firearms, most of which has nothing to do with the firearm being auctioned.

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    Yeah, they should have noted this one. But on the other hand I think it is all factory work, so it's not a gross misrepresentation. And I don't think they knew anything about it until it was pointed out that weekend, though one could argue that they should have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalhounRR View Post
    Yeah, they should have noted this one. But on the other hand I think it is all factory work, so it's not a gross misrepresentation. And I don't think they knew anything about it until it was pointed out that weekend, though one could argue that they should have.
    It looks factory to me as well. But it still should be disclosed.

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