Results 1 to 17 of 17

Thread: All of a sudden bolt won't close??

  1. #1
    Team Savage
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Iowa
    Age
    52
    Posts
    1,316

    All of a sudden bolt won't close??


    This is probably something dumb but I am stumped.

    110 in 300BO put it together a few months ago have had no issues at all.

    Have prob 500 rounds through the rifle, some factory, mostly various handloads all fired without incident.

    Had the rifle at the range yesterday- shot great, no issues.

    Today took barreled action out of the stock, tried cycling the action and the bolt wouldn't close.

    Bolt out of action- Pull trigger, depress BO button and bolt slides right in, no problem.

    Try to close bolt and it hangs up- like there is something in the way.

    Bolt will slide home and handle will drop to about halfway and then it binds up.

    Force will close the bolt with a "cam over" feel.

    Have completely stripped the bolt, inspected and cleaned the breach/bolt face area over and over, have chambered empty cases and dummy rounds-
    Absolutely no idea what is causing the bolt to hang up??

    This was not an issue yesterday, and now all of a sudden the bolt doesn't want to close without excesive force?

    Thoughts?

  2. #2
    Administrator J.Baker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    NW Ohio
    Age
    47
    Posts
    6,436
    Sounds like something foreign got in there and is causing the binding. My guess would be something between the lug ramps and breech face of the barrel.
    "Life' is tough. It's even tougher if you're stupid." ~ John Wayne
    “Under certain circumstances, 
urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.” —Mark Twain

  3. #3
    Team Savage
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Iowa
    Age
    52
    Posts
    1,316
    Agreed- have cleaned everything 100x over and still getting the binding.

    There is literally nothing in that chamber- hence the question..

  4. #4
    Team Savage
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    Suburb of Filthadelphia.
    Age
    43
    Posts
    2,517
    So, on an empty chamber, it binds but closes with a cam over feeling? Or ONLY with a dummy round or empty case? If it’s doing this with an empty case, it’s that case. Like mine, I bet you have really tight headspace. Many of my resized cases won’t chamber without that cam over force.
    My thanks to “6”. Only ANIMALS lack value for their younger LIFE!

  5. #5
    Super Moderator Blue Avenger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Minnesota
    Age
    64
    Posts
    2,683
    loosen back screw on front scope base and see if problem goes away
    .223 Rem AI, .22-250 AI, .220 Swift AI .243 Win AI, .6mm Rem AI, .257 Rob AI, .25-06 AI, 6.5x300wsm .30-06 AI, .270 STW, 7mm STW, 28 nosler, .416 Taylor

  6. #6
    Team Savage
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Iowa
    Age
    52
    Posts
    1,316
    Yes it binds on an empty chamber.
    Scope and base have been removed, barrelled action is out of the stock.

  7. #7
    Team Savage
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    Suburb of Filthadelphia.
    Age
    43
    Posts
    2,517
    Was it biding while in the stock as well mattri? Because out of the stock, it should be hard. It’s just the nature of leverage. Again, I have my barreled action out of the Chassis now, and it’s difficult. Once it’s in the Chassis, the leverage is back. Now, if this started while still in the stock, disregard.
    My thanks to “6”. Only ANIMALS lack value for their younger LIFE!

  8. #8
    Team Savage
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Iowa
    Age
    52
    Posts
    1,316
    Yes it binds in the stock as well.
    Had no issues at all day before yesterday.

  9. #9
    Team Savage

    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Easten WA near ID border
    Age
    65
    Posts
    680
    Something has changed. If you have a borescope I'd inspect the ramps from breech as well as from the muzzle. If you don't have a borescope, I recommend the Teslong, awesome tool for $56.

  10. #10
    Team Savage
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Iowa
    Age
    52
    Posts
    1,316
    Took a look with the borescope thinking there had to be something on the ramps but nothing there.
    It chambers hard with a cam over empty or with dummy or fired case in it. So strange.

  11. #11
    Team Savage
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    Suburb of Filthadelphia.
    Age
    43
    Posts
    2,517
    Very. Wish could offer more, but without seeing it, at this point it’s just speculation. A head scratcher indeed. You need to pull the barrel so you get to the lugs. I actually have a good bit of Silicone Nitride media I’ve used on bolt & lug mating surfaces. Mix the media with grease and work the bolt in the Action. Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyQMNY6fwxw

    I’d be happy to send you some if you think it might be in that.
    My thanks to “6”. Only ANIMALS lack value for their younger LIFE!

  12. #12
    Team Savage
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Iowa
    Age
    52
    Posts
    1,316
    FOUND IT!

    In taking the barreled action out of the stock, refitting etc at some point a metal sliver (guessing from the threads of the action where the stock screw goes through) stood up enough to catch the boltface.

    All the cleaning, wiping, spraying in the world did not move this sliver, a borescope down the barrel was looking at it straight on and not seeing it- but there the little bugger lie.

  13. #13
    Team Savage
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    Suburb of Filthadelphia.
    Age
    43
    Posts
    2,517
    And there you go.
    My thanks to “6”. Only ANIMALS lack value for their younger LIFE!

  14. #14
    Team Savage

    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    Easten WA near ID border
    Age
    65
    Posts
    680
    Good catch!

  15. #15
    Team Savage
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    rush springs,okla
    Posts
    2,332
    little things that get you

  16. #16
    Basic Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    las cruces, nm
    Posts
    1,620
    I repair sewing machines as a hobby. It is simply amazing how small a piece of thread can lock up a machine when it is in just the right spot. And just the tiniest scratch in the right spot will prevent the machine from working properly.

  17. #17
    Basic Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2020
    Location
    SE Wis.
    Posts
    130
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hoback View Post
    I actually have a good bit of Silicone Nitride media I’ve used on bolt & lug mating surfaces. Mix the media with grease and work the bolt in the Action. Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyQMNY6fwxw

    I’d be happy to send you some if you think it might be in that.
    Dave, very helpful link. I bookmarked it. Thanks.

Similar Threads

  1. Replaced the Bolt Head- Bolt will not close on a loved round
    By Crow Juice in forum 110-Series Rifles
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 06-23-2022, 11:00 PM
  2. Empty - bolt closes, loaded - bolt won't close
    By Forrest Mc in forum 110-Series Rifles
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 01-11-2018, 01:41 PM
  3. Bolt on my new 114 won't close
    By pistolpete in forum 110-Series Rifles
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 08-27-2011, 11:07 AM
  4. Bolt won't close
    By rouxsdad in forum 110-Series Rifles
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 04-03-2011, 09:37 AM
  5. all of a sudden bolt is VERY tight- what happened?
    By mattri in forum 110-Series Rifles
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 07-14-2010, 06:57 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •