Savage Guru gunsmith

**Flat Land Coaxer** · 04-29-2022, 08:17 AM

I am looking for a professional gunsmith to do some work on a savage rifle for me. Are there any savage specialists out there? Drop some contacts if you know. Thank You

**Blue Avenger** · 04-29-2022, 07:05 PM

Sharpshooter on here is one

**Dave Hoback** · 04-29-2022, 08:29 PM

Curious what you are looking to have done?

**Flat Land Coaxer** · 05-02-2022, 12:21 AM

Im looking for someone to make my 17 Remington feed from a magazine as it should. "Adjust the feed lips," or go single shot are the only solutions I have found from non-professionals through my own research. That will not suffice.

**Blue Avenger** · 05-02-2022, 07:36 AM

feed ramp, like an AR15

**Flat Land Coaxer** · 05-03-2022, 01:59 AM

The issue is how far the feed ramp is from the shell in the mag.

**Fuj'** · 05-11-2022, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by Flat Land Coaxer

Im looking for someone to make my 17 Remington feed from a magazine as it should. "Adjust the feed lips," or go single shot are the only solutions.

What exactly does the cartridge do when you push it into the chamber ?? Looking
at the 17 Remington, It's basically a needle, and should not have much interference
being chambered. And what model Savage is this ?? Is it a blind magazine ??

**Blue Avenger** · 05-11-2022, 07:37 AM

some background in another post under his name where he said it was an axis action

**Fuj'** · 05-16-2022, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by Fuj'

What exactly does the cartridge do when you push it into the chamber ?? Looking
at the 17 Remington, It's basically a needle, and should not have much interference
being chambered. And what model Savage is this ?? Is it a blind magazine ??

I was going to keep my trap shut but here goes. The above quote of mine has not been
answered.....Coning a barrel is a band aid fix for chambering, as was used early on for the
M-16's to solve jamming problems in the field. There is a parent problem why there is a
feeding issue, and most always starts with the magazine angle and depth it's locked in
place and or feed lips. My two Rock Rivers 5.56 AR's have a minimal feed cone. The AR-
EOP varmint with full bull Wilson barrel has less then a 1/32" shallow angle cut. So my
advice is to find the parent problem first and that starts with what's going on in the loading
process. Is that cartridge taking a nose dive ?? Running up hill ?? Bolt skipping over the top ??
Binding at half chamber ??

**gbflyer** · 05-12-2022, 10:20 AM

I cut a “feed cone” on every barrel I chamber. Basically you’re just breaking a sharp edge. I was advised by Jim Borden not to exceed .140 total of unsupported case. It takes very little effort to do it and it makes all the difference in reliable feeding. Sharpshooter is 100% correct.

**Dave Hoback** · 05-12-2022, 11:03 AM

Every AR I’ve done has a cone. If it didn’t, rounds would jam left & right! As for 223/5.56 being unsupported with this; I’ve reloaded some seriously hot 223 in the past, and don’t get the raised ring (like a belted magnum case). It’s a non issue.

What Jim said is the truth. Several here know what they are doing, but Fred (sharpshooter)has the most extensive knowledge base. While I understand & can relay the concept, I’ve never dealt with & fixed a jamming 17 Rem. Fred very likely has seen more than a couple. Email him on his website & he will get you squared away.

**tomme boy** · 05-12-2022, 11:45 PM

I cant post pics but here is a couple of links that explains what I was talking about. It is an issue when you get tolerance stacking. To say it is a non issue is not a wise decision on your part. You have to be careful that the "smith" also knows about this and might ask a ? about which brass the customer is using. This is a common problem in AR rifles if you are around them enough.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/7UwQrqYFHoG81w8f7

https://photos.app.goo.gl/59hcXKmkWmX6KYUg7

**wbm** · 05-13-2022, 10:03 AM

Thanks for the post Tommy Boy. Wow! That is as rare a term for shooting as "powder position sensitivity."

Anyway I had to look it up....Tolerance Staking: An engineering term that refers to the overall reliability of a system based on the combined deviations of its individual components.

Lot's of talk about "tolerance stacking" problems occurring from using "mix-and-match" parts for AR platforms...especially in bolt carrier groups.

https://www.sigtalk.com/threads/stac...erances.91713/

**Dave Hoback** · 05-13-2022, 11:54 AM

Rare? Hmm… I’ve never thought it to be. It’s a term used used often & quite a normal concept for hobby machinists, builders & gunsmith like myself & others I’ve known. I would think the same for gunsmiths doing it full time.

Were you being sincere WBM? Or just being a it facetious?

Because I’m fairly certain it’s been used here before.