Savage Guru gunsmith

**Flat Land Coaxer** · 04-29-2022, 08:17 AM

I am looking for a professional gunsmith to do some work on a savage rifle for me. Are there any savage specialists out there? Drop some contacts if you know. Thank You

**Blue Avenger** · 04-29-2022, 07:05 PM

Sharpshooter on here is one

**Dave Hoback** · 04-29-2022, 08:29 PM

Curious what you are looking to have done?

**Flat Land Coaxer** · 05-02-2022, 12:21 AM

Im looking for someone to make my 17 Remington feed from a magazine as it should. "Adjust the feed lips," or go single shot are the only solutions I have found from non-professionals through my own research. That will not suffice.

**Blue Avenger** · 05-02-2022, 07:36 AM

feed ramp, like an AR15

**Flat Land Coaxer** · 05-03-2022, 01:59 AM

The issue is how far the feed ramp is from the shell in the mag.

**Flat Land Coaxer** · 05-03-2022, 02:08 AM

Ar15 feed ramps are part of the barrel. An axis is part of the action. Not even close to the same design.

**sharpshooter** · 05-03-2022, 04:31 PM

That's why you need a feed ramp cut on the chamber mouth of the barrel......just like an AR-15.

**Flat Land Coaxer** · 05-04-2022, 01:54 AM

Im not about to rechamber that barrel after grinding it all up. Ive not heard that as a feeding solution from anyone before so it must not be widely practiced on bolt actions.

**Robinhood** · 05-04-2022, 06:40 AM

Flat lander, you asked for a Gunsmith. You asked for a Savage Specialist. Sharpshooter is the renowned Savage Gunsmith. You could not have received more sound advice for your Savage.

**Flat Land Coaxer** · 05-04-2022, 06:55 AM

If the suggestion is to cut the barrel just like an ar15, that is not sound advice as is is 100% different design than a bolt action barrel. If you meant cutting a single ramp into the shank, Im all ears.

**Darryle** · 05-04-2022, 08:42 AM

Is your rifle centerfeed or staggerfeed?

Sounds like you are not following the advice that Fred has offered, there are not many, if any that qualify more than him. I suggest you reach out to him and schedule having him fix the issue.

**sharpshooter** · 05-04-2022, 04:07 PM

Maybe I mislead you by calling it a feed ramp... it is actually a feed cone. For some reason I can't get the pic to post.

**Dave Hoback** · 05-04-2022, 06:15 PM

Here’s an example. This is an AR barrel before the barrel extension is screwed on. Clearly shows the feeding “cone” unlike a typical Savage barrel.

**Robinhood** · 05-04-2022, 10:39 PM

Let me try this.
this drawing shows a feeding cone in a bolt action.

**Flat Land Coaxer** · 05-09-2022, 03:10 PM

Cutting this barrel like that would make it far past too short if theres even enough shank there to do that. I called 4 barrel manufacturers before buying this shilen and every single one of them ensured me that this barrel would work and it sure dont. Kinda feel like I got screwed by shilen in a couple ways.

**Blue Avenger** · 05-10-2022, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Flat Land Coaxer

Cutting this barrel like that would make it far past too short if there's even enough shank there to do that.

Pretty sure you and I went to different physics classes. There is no length change. Just a slight Chamber re-shape.

**wbm** · 05-10-2022, 11:07 AM

Sounds like you are not following the advice that Fred has offered, there are not many, if any that qualify more than him. I suggest you reach out to him and schedule having him fix the issue.

+1

**mattri** · 05-10-2022, 01:26 PM

I may be way off base but Fred mentioned that the cartridge in the mag is too far away from the feed cone cut into the barrel- would a spacer at the back of the mag help? Trim the floor plate and keep the cartridge up at the front of the mag?

**Dave Hoback** · 05-10-2022, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by mattri

I may be way off base but Fred mentioned that the cartridge in the mag is too far away from the feed cone cut into the barrel- would a spacer at the back of the mag help? Trim the floor plate and keep the cartridge up at the front of the mag?

I had thought on that myself mattri. But I wasn’t sure it was all that far to begin with. If it’s anything like doing a 223 in a standard short Action box than I can’t see why that wouldn’t be help.

**mattri** · 05-10-2022, 10:23 PM

https://www.savageshooters.com/showt...aster-Mag-Mods

Something like this is what I was thinking but could certainly be barking up the wrong tree.

**Fuj'** · 05-11-2022, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by Flat Land Coaxer

Im looking for someone to make my 17 Remington feed from a magazine as it should. "Adjust the feed lips," or go single shot are the only solutions.

What exactly does the cartridge do when you push it into the chamber ?? Looking
at the 17 Remington, It's basically a needle, and should not have much interference
being chambered. And what model Savage is this ?? Is it a blind magazine ??

**Blue Avenger** · 05-11-2022, 07:37 AM

some background in another post under his name where he said it was an axis action

**tomme boy** · 05-11-2022, 11:28 PM

Feed cone means a unsupported case head. You have to be very careful as not all brass has the web in the same place. That is why you see brass that looks like a belted mag case coming out of barrels like this. The 350 legend is one of the worst for this if using starline brass. Their web is shallower in the head and depending on the barrel they blow out a ring all the way around the case head. This happens with 223/556 ar barrels as well.

**J.Baker** · 05-12-2022, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by Flat Land Coaxer

Cutting this barrel like that would make it far past too short if theres even enough shank there to do that. I called 4 barrel manufacturers before buying this shilen and every single one of them ensured me that this barrel would work and it sure dont. Kinda feel like I got screwed by shilen in a couple ways.

The problem here isn't the barrel, it's the end users attitude.

You asked for recommendations for a "Savage specialist" and a half-dozen or more folks pointed you to the best one out there. He even responds himself telling you what needs done. Yet you continue to insist you know better even though you clearly don't because you came here asking for help because you had no solution of your own.

Adding the feed cone Fred eluded to has zero effect on the length of the barrel as it's just a cut to add a small bevel to the mouth of the chamber as shown in Dave's above photo. Every single AR15 barrel out there chambered in .223/5.56 has this exact same cut in it as it's necessary to ensure reliable feeding - especially for longer VLD-style bullets and many of the more blunt faced hollow points. This is because of the smaller diameter of the case in comparison to the diameter of the barrel shank. Without the feed cone the tip of the bullet will often hit the square face of the breech of the barrel just below the chamber causing a jamb. The feed cone fixes that issue by providing a slight ramp to guide the tip of the bullet up into the chamber.

Every single Savage barrel I've owned over the last 20-some years that's been chambered for a small diameter case (.223, .222 Rem, .204 Ruger, .17 Rem, etc), whether it was a factory or aftermarket barrel, I've had Fred cut a feed cone into it to ensure reliable feeding and I've never had a single issue. It's the only way you'll ever get these smaller diameter cartridges to feed reliably in a Savage Axis or 110 with all types of bullets.