I posted a response with pics. It hasn"t shown up yet. My son is already talking about hunting again but he's out of commission until his hand heals. Looking at at least a month probably. My wife yells at him everytime he brings it up. She's still pretty worked up over it all.
I tried to post pics yesterday of the bolt so y'all could see the position of the pin and the cocking button but it still hasn't shown up yet. We went over every possible scenario trying to figure out what happened. Checked the first shot case, everything looked normal, correct ammo. Couldn't find the detonated case to verify it was correct but did find the bullet a couple inches in the ground about 8' from where he was standing. It was 6mm. So after that is when I took another look at the bolt and realized the pin was sticking out but it was in the cocked position.
My opinion was that possibly the trigger weight and/or possibly the spring tension on the firing pin had been modified. Something was abnormal.
The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.
How does the button indicate it's still cocked with firing pin sticking out? We haven't touched the trigger or firing pin spring. I guess anything is a possibility. Just trying to think of every possible scenario before savage looks at it and tries to tell us it's our fault.Originally Posted by Robinhood
Did you tear the bolt apart yet?
"As long as there's lead in the air....there's still hope.."
Possibly the cocking piece became unscrewed allowing the firing pin to strike the primer. How else could it fire with the bolt open cocked position? Even if he was squeezing the trigger the bolt would be closed before the cocking piece pin could go home. The pin cannot pass the sear arm unless the trigger is pulled. The pin cant fire without the bolt being rotated. If the bolt is rotated closed then the bolt could not move rearward. Only other thing is there was a barrel obstruction. Since we cant see the pictures all we have is conjecture. Unscrew the BAS and check.
The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.
Honestly, this is the first case of a bolt action KB, from firing out of battery. I guess it’s just the first one I have really paid mind to. Just after 2004 was basically the beginning of the AK/AR “Build” culture. I was doing that from the start, and I remember hearing of out of battery KB’s fairly often. By the grace of God neither myself, nor anyone I knew was ever a victim of one.
Just strange, I never really thought of a bolt action to exhibit the condition. So, thank you for sharing with us hdball.
I doubt that it came unscrewed, but it could have separated from a bad thread joint, or just plain break at the end of the threads(highly unlikely) and the spring would push the the firing pin to the fired position, still leaving the cocking piece in the cock detent. We'll found out if or when he tears it apart.
"As long as there's lead in the air....there's still hope.."
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