Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Dislikes Dislikes:  0
Results 1 to 16 of 16

Thread: Axis Finally Responding Well

  1. #1
    Team Savage GaCop's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Warner Robins, Ga
    Age
    72
    Posts
    3,760

    Axis Finally Responding Well

    Got all the problems with the Axis Ironed out with Winchester primers. They just don't want to ignite first time in my rifle. They work in my 1893 Mauser, 7X57mm, Mannlicher stocked sporter just fine so they are reserved for that rifle only. Tested a load today in RP brass, CCI 200 primers, H4831sc/41.3 grains. Speer 100 grain BTSPs seated to 2.690". Velocity averaged 2869 fps. This round grouped three into 2.039" @ 200 yards in a 7 mph cross wind. Plenty good accuracy to drop a whitetail at that range.
    Vietnam Vet, Jun 66 - Dec 67

  2. #2
    Team Savage wbm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    New Mexico
    Age
    76
    Posts
    1,859
    Glad to hear it. Was going to suggest you cuss it but looks like things worked out without resorting to vulgarities.
    FWIW I switched to CCI primers a while back also....especially like the CCI-BR2.

  3. #3
    Administrator J.Baker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    NW Ohio
    Age
    45
    Posts
    5,960
    Quote Originally Posted by wbm View Post
    ....especially like the CCI-BR2.
    Only problem with the BR2's and 4's is they cost nearly twice as much.
    "Life' is tough. It's even tougher if you're stupid." ~ John Wayne
    “Under certain circumstances, 
urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.” —Mark Twain

  4. #4
    Basic Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    las cruces, nm
    Posts
    421
    I like the CCI BR for my .308 as well, but, I still use the RemBR primers in my .223. I was going to use the Fed primers but the stores I visit don't have them in stock very often.

    Don't know how much difference the Rem BR primers make as they are the only primer I've used in the little gun. The .308 I started with std Fed primers. It was VERY noticeable when I switched to the BR primers.

  5. #5
    Team Savage GaCop's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Warner Robins, Ga
    Age
    72
    Posts
    3,760
    Quote Originally Posted by wbm View Post
    Glad to hear it. Was going to suggest you cuss it but looks like things worked out without resorting to vulgarities.
    FWIW I switched to CCI primers a while back also....especially like the CCI-BR2.
    I have the BR-2s but reserve those for my heavy barrel 6.5 Creedmoor when I shoot long range. I did try some of the BR-2s in the Axis but didn't see any better grouping over the 200s. In my area, I have either Federal Primers, Winchester or CCIs to choose from. Remington primers just aren't popular around here for what ever reason..
    Vietnam Vet, Jun 66 - Dec 67

  6. #6
    New Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Location
    Connecticut
    Posts
    7
    I’ve noticed that my batch of Winchester primers also must be defective, in that they have a “click-bang” personality. (Hang-Fire)

  7. #7
    Team Savage wbm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    New Mexico
    Age
    76
    Posts
    1,859
    Only problem with the BR2's and 4's is they cost nearly twice as much.
    Yeah they are pricey. Sportsmans Warehouse had them at a good price this summer so I stocked up.

  8. #8
    Team Savage GaCop's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Warner Robins, Ga
    Age
    72
    Posts
    3,760
    If the weather co-operates and the freakin rain finally stops, I plan on taking the Axis out to 300 yards to see what it and the hand loads can do.
    Vietnam Vet, Jun 66 - Dec 67

  9. #9
    Team Savage GaCop's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Warner Robins, Ga
    Age
    72
    Posts
    3,760
    Weather co-operated. Tested the Speer 100 grain BTSP over 41.3 grains of H4831sc. COL: 2.688" Velocity averages 2833 fps. 300 yard group average for 12 rounds was 3.068" Any deer within 300 yards is toast!
    Vietnam Vet, Jun 66 - Dec 67

  10. #10
    Team Savage wbm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    New Mexico
    Age
    76
    Posts
    1,859
    Sounds like you got it working for sure.

  11. #11
    Team Savage GaCop's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Warner Robins, Ga
    Age
    72
    Posts
    3,760
    Unbelieveable!! "tried" shooting the Axis today to test handloads with the Sierra 100 gr SP over RL-17. Loads in FC brass fired three times. CCI 200 primers. 8 rounds in a row would not fire!! Tried twice, sometime three time but no go. Then when one did finally fire the primer is pierced! The load is nowhere near the max load for RL-17. I'm about ready to wrap the POS around the oak tree in my yard. Pulled the bolt down yet again. Noticed an area on the FP where the bluing was worn completely away. Rub area is just behind the hole fer the cocking piece. I polished the He!! out of the area and cleaned the inside of the bolt yet again and reassembled it. I may or may not take the damned thing to the range this weekend. I'd send it bac k to Savage but they require a copy of the sales receipt and I don't know what I did with that.
    Vietnam Vet, Jun 66 - Dec 67

  12. #12
    Team Savage Stumpkiller's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Location
    Port Crane, NY
    Age
    60
    Posts
    617
    Not good. CCI-200 are my go to primers . . . but I see you are beyond a primer issue.

    A couple questions first - when you reload a case do you first clean the primer pocket? And are you hand-seating the primers so you can feel when they seat properly? Any grunge can keep a primer from seating, and some presses don't give you any tactile feedback using the "stock" priming arm. Then the firing pin pushes it the last bit when it strikes it but any movement wastes that much energy. But there is no possibly way that would happen eight-in-a-row. That's enemy action.

    Here's a couple older threads

    https://www.savageshooters.com/showt...ng-pin-strikes

    https://www.savageshooters.com/showt...ng-pin-strikes
    "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance." Last words of Gen. Sedgwik

  13. #13
    Team Savage GaCop's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Warner Robins, Ga
    Age
    72
    Posts
    3,760
    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpkiller View Post
    Not good. CCI-200 are my go to primers . . . but I see you are beyond a primer issue.

    A couple questions first - when you reload a case do you first clean the primer pocket? And are you hand-seating the primers so you can feel when they seat properly? Any grunge can keep a primer from seating, and some presses don't give you any tactile feedback using the "stock" priming arm. Then the firing pin pushes it the last bit when it strikes it but any movement wastes that much energy. But there is no possibly way that would happen eight-in-a-row. That's enemy action.

    Here's a couple older threads

    https://www.savageshooters.com/showt...ng-pin-strikes

    https://www.savageshooters.com/showt...ng-pin-strikes
    Yes, I hand seat the primers. Primer pockets are cleaned each time they're loaded. All my brass has had the primer pockets uniformed with a cutter and the flash holes deburred. Read those threads. Could possibly be the FP spring and I will have to check to see if the sear is rubbing some where. It's strange though that this would show up after so may rounds thru the rifle. Initially, for the first 120 rounds I had no light strikes what so ever. Round count now is 278.
    Vietnam Vet, Jun 66 - Dec 67

  14. #14
    Basic Member Robinhood's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Bayou Country
    Age
    62
    Posts
    5,132
    I know Fred will slap me for this but does dry fire sound week or does it have the snappy sound of a hard hit? Im currious if there was a bad batch of springs. Is there a way to test the spring tension with a postal or household scale? I'm thinking 20 lbs(pulled that out of my %#$) would be minimal.

    Also make sure the trigger(or anything else) is not interfering with the sear travel.

    If you take the barreled action out of the stock and fire some primed cases with the offending brass and primers , do the primers ignite?
    One Cannot Be PC And Be Intellectually Honest!

  15. #15
    Team Savage GaCop's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Warner Robins, Ga
    Age
    72
    Posts
    3,760
    Quote Originally Posted by Robinhood View Post
    I know Fred will slap me for this but does dry fire sound week or does it have the snappy sound of a hard hit? Im currious if there was a bad batch of springs. Is there a way to test the spring tension with a postal or household scale? I'm thinking 20 lbs(pulled that out of my %#$) would be minimal.

    Also make sure the trigger(or anything else) is not interfering with the sear travel.

    If you take the barreled action out of the stock and fire some primed cases with the offending brass and primers , do the primers ignite?
    Broke down the rifle and as soon as I separated the action from the stock I felt something drop on my leg. Turns out it was the anvil from one of the blown primers! That could have interfered with the sear release for sure. Reassembled everything and it seems like the FP is releasing with more energy now. I'll prime a couple of cases to see if the problem is solved.
    Vietnam Vet, Jun 66 - Dec 67

  16. #16
    Team Savage GaCop's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Warner Robins, Ga
    Age
    72
    Posts
    3,760
    Tried some of the original offending Winchester LR primers and they ignited the first time. Once I have dry weather I'll test it again with the rounds that wouldn't fire last range trip.
    Vietnam Vet, Jun 66 - Dec 67

Similar Threads

  1. I finally started an Axis project, a few questions:
    By flyer in forum Axis Series Rifles
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: Yesterday, 12:21 PM
  2. Replies: 6
    Last Post: 08-02-2014, 09:58 AM
  3. finally finished my savage axis
    By bnizzel2000 in forum Axis Series Rifles
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 01-25-2014, 03:04 AM
  4. Finally got My Axis 243 together
    By Predator53 in forum Axis Series Rifles
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 04-07-2013, 03:38 PM
  5. Finally got an Axis
    By aubie515 in forum Axis Series Rifles
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 10-14-2012, 06:10 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •