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    Will savage 11 In .223 with 9" twist stabilize


    Federal Gold Medal Match ammo, and if so, what is the maximum accurate range?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Well mine stabilizes 77gr MK's from my handloads out to 1000 yards. Not saying it won't go sideways but all bullets have cut nice round holes so far.
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    Have you looked at the Federal Premium website?
    https://www.federalpremium.com/products/rifle.aspx

    You might find your answer there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earl39 View Post
    Well mine stabilizes 77gr MK's from my handloads out to 1000 yards. Not saying it won't go sideways but all bullets have cut nice round holes so far.
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    Thanks; that is exactly what I wanted to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Have you looked at the Federal Premium website?
    https://www.federalpremium.com/products/rifle.aspx

    You might find your answer there.
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    Thanks. Been there many times. They only show ballistic information to 500 yards for the 223, and I have never seen information on what twist works with which ammo. Maybe I have just missed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by expfcwintergreen View Post
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    Thanks. Been there many times. They only show ballistic information to 500 yards for the 223, and I have never seen information on what twist works with which ammo. Maybe I have just missed it.
    We shoot a Model 12 223, 26" barrel, 1:7 twist with 80 gr A-Max out to 1000 yards.
    Need 1:8 or better for the 80 gr.

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    I've been shooting 77 grain noslers out of mine with great results in a 11VT. Haven't seen one tumble yet

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    Remember that weight really doesn't mean poop. Bullet LENGTH is what you worry about with stabilization. The 77gr SMK & kissin-cousin, the Nosler CC are quite notably shorter than the 75gr V-Max.
    I've long been shooting the 77's through many 9-twist rifles, beyond 1100.
    Also remember that it is completely "Normal" for any manufacturer to be "off" on their ACTUAL twist from stated; by a half a turn.
    So the answer is it depends upon your barrel.
    http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmstab-5.1.cgi
    Use that link to look up the lengths, then put in the specifics for your conditions. As bullet velocity decays, rapidly; the rotational decay will happen VERY slowly, relatively speaking. So as the bullet travels it will actually gain in stability.
    I'm a firm believer in the theory that if it bleeds, I can kill it.

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