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    Thankya sir I will give it a try and post some pics soon as I get to the range
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    well 1shot you are a genius updates and thoughts??




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    27 grains of Varget and a 50 grn Vmax with a CCI primer
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    Quote Originally Posted by quickkillaught6


    ...What's the reason for 2.318 seating depth on the H4895..??? Might have to invest in a drop tube..lol...Need to start moving your seating depth in -.005 at a time...

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    Lol I know what youre saying but the 53's taper very harshly like a vld bullet and to get them into the lands or close I started out the ladder testing at 2.318 so I didn't develope a hot load and then jam lengthen the oal and jam it into the lands an have a boom no pressure signs but I have tried all sorts of seating depths with
    These I started at above and tightened them
    Up by .010 at a time I'll dig up my targets and get you numbers I use fosters searing dies so I'm very
    Precise hand weigh every charge with a 505 rcbs vld chamfer flash holes deburred
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    ..OK..You show 26.8grs of H4895 on your posted pic...Lets move that up to 27.2grs at 2.318 oal. Shoot one for 5 & post me the target...

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    Thank you 1shot I am waitin on bullets right now I started with varget because I have plenty of that and h4895 with the varget I started at 2.318 to 2.260 in .010 increments and with the varget at 27 with a tighter seating depth at 2.270 it would do 2-3" groups @100 I will try 27.2 H and the 53's when projectiles come in thank you so much for the help I appreciate it a whole bunch
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    as you requested seated at 2.318 27.2h4895 had very similar results with close to max charges with varget with no avail. went to the h4895 as a bit faster burning powder havent found anything yet. the H322 looks to be winning so far. advice please

    and the top of the target is on the left side me and photobucket is about to have it out.
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    ..How far off the lands are you at 2.318..?

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    To be completely honest I'm not 100% sure on this particular rifle I can usually size an empty fired and seat it long look for marks on the bullet take that measurement and subtract it from the oal of the cartridge bullet combo in question. I have a hornady aol gauge on order to be more precise I've gotten to far into this reloading to not have one but I will have. Still kinda green at it so for that I appoligize. I've gotten extremely lucky on my reloading endevers so far but this bullet is my white elephant so time to get help and work through it
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    Quote Originally Posted by quickkillaught6
    To be completely honest I'm not 100% sure on this particular rifle I can usually size an empty fired and seat it long look for marks on the bullet take that measurement and subtract it from the oal of the cartridge bullet combo in question. I have a hornady aol gauge on order to be more precise I've gotten to far into this reloading to not have one but I will have. Still kinda green at it so for that I appoligize. I've gotten extremely lucky on my reloading endevers so far but this bullet is my white elephant so time to get help and work through it
    ...Well lets just push it out to 2.330 & try it again..

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    Rather lengthen by .05 at groups of 3 or 5 until 2.330?
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    ...Closing in on it...lol..Push it out another +.005 = 2.335

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    Lol I'd recon I should have a aol gauge by thursday I hope I'll take some measurements but keep push'in them out .05 at a time surely something's gotta work
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    Now since I don't have a chrono yet I have a question. Let's say a 53 grain bullet setted at 2.20" with H4895 bottom shows 25@3166 with the top being 27c 3383 if you move the bullet out further how does that reflect on the fps accuracy trumps all IMO but just curious to hear personal experience are you loosing fps by seating further out? I have read that a max load not stuffed
    Into the lands and then seated into the lands causes a severe pressure spike resulting in yard sale material.. Just curious
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    ...You still have plenty of room..It's not going to slow anything down....Now if you were jamming them +.010 in the lands it would be a different story..The groups will close up before that happens...

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    well poop ???
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    Have it recrowned and try again

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    It's a brand new gun!? Well less than 600 rounds down the pipe why is it you think recrowning it will help?? I'm intrigued....
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    24.4, 69smk's as per picture, Savage BVSS, 9 twist

    Still going to play with the loads a little, 24.3 to 24.5 just to see! VERY WINDY when shooting this group.

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    ...Go back to 2.330 & put .2gr more in it..Sometimes they can get alittle testy..Might just not like H4895..

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    I have seen two rifle that was recrowned shoot great that didn't not before and if you keep having the same problem I would send it back and ask them to shoot it . Remember even the boss can shoot 1200 yds lol

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    @deer.. Lol yea it like the 53's with other powder and it will print small groups with 69smks and H4895 so I don't think it's a crown problem just haven't hit the right mixture yet 1shots been helping me work it in as I was about to go with another bullet but the bc on the 53's are very good and @1shot will do and thanks again for all the help!!!
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    Lol some of the people on here are great and a lot of help it's kinda are own brother hood

    Got to love this and the everyone ween I get my real computer going I'll well join the brother hood lol

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