archangel AAS10 stock. short action 6.5 cm

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just posting for the guys wanting something different than oem without spending a lot. a nice stock to be out in the weather, shooting in the real world and not care if it gets scratched or "used"

feeds far better than it ever did with the oem DBM. by far the smoothest its ever cycled at any speed you cycle it. seems the stock and mag set up work flawless with the 6.5cm. its pillar bedded with 1" diameter pillars but im going to take it to be professionally fitted and bedded. i had to make the recoil lug recess wider and deeper to get it to fit. i have a 223 action that dropped right in. not sure why the 6.5 has a much larger lug but it did. the bolt release being on the side instead of the trigger guard is a nice change as well. mag drops free and locks in with a full 7 rounds on a closed bolt with ease and an audible click.


im not going to say its the end all beat all. but for only $160 its a massive upgrade over the oem stock. extremely comfortable, very nice adjustments. much stiffer. if i ever want more than this ill get a chassis. but this thing is damn comfy standing and prone.
its butt heavy but that actually helped a lot with the heavy barrel i have. the rifle just about balances at the front scope ring now
barrel free floats and would so even if the barrel was a straight taper bull.


its inletted for both top and bottom bolt release, and the front pillar/screw hole is slotted to fit both screw spacings. had to trim 3 threads off the screw in the front to clear the bolt when tightened. no change in zero after instal but i only fired one round at a water bottle 100 yards off. so if it did it was slight.

at the time of the typing this it actually went down in price. go figure lol but only $10 less than i paid. shipping was $14
https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_...stk+sav+mdl+10

oh and much to my satisfaction, it does NOT have that terrible built in bipod like they showed in all their adds. it has two simple M-lok slots at the front bottom. perfect for any type of bipod adapters you could want.

and here are some close ups of the magazine loaded with 7 rounds of 140g 6.5 cm. i cant stress enough how awesome the mag feeds. it holds the rounds at exactly the correct angle that the projectile never touches anything that i can tell while loading. smooth as silk.

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Thanks for posting the pics n info. What is the bedding used in these and have you had the chance to see how it shoots, accuracy wise?

Unfortunately for the Savage we only have the option of pillar bedded, but if you were buying this stock for the Remington 700 there's two versions one is aluminum block bedded and the other is pillar bedded. So far I've only fired two rounds out of the rifle. Before doing the swap with the stock I could Cloverleaf rounds with the proper ammo at a hundred yards. I doubt there would be any accuracy improvement over what it was already doing as it's an impressively accurate rifle to begin with. But the ergonomics and comfort as well as the angle you can bear down on the trigger are worth every penny.

My biggest motivation is that I could never get the rifle to feed properly with the 6.5 Creedmoor. the round always seem to want to jump up above the bolt and bind in the chamber. you would have to release pressure from the bolt handle it would drop in place and then feed just fine. Tried multiple OEM magazines tried messing with feed lips. never could get it to feed properly drove me insane. As cheap as these stocks are and the fact they come with a MAG it was worth the price to see if it could solve that, while adding a bit of comfort. I still can't get over how smooth the action is in this stock. I've never owned a Savage rifle that feeds this smoothly. Running the bolt without any ammo feels the same as actually loading the rifle

I have an off the reservation budget build coming up shortly
I looked at this stock and the Choate ultimate sniper. Choate
won out with the aluminum bedding block. When it shows up,
it going on the mill for surgery.....Fellas, I've seen this stock
up close up on a 22/250 varmint build. For the money, it's
under priced. Polymer has come a long way.

I had the ultimate sniper stock on a 270 I built years ago. it's butt ugly but damned functional. if I were to use a stock from that maker again it would be there Tactical looking one, for aesthetic and the fact that it's built just like the ultimate sniper, with the full-length aluminum bedding block. The only reason I didn't go with that this time, is they've honestly gotten too proud when it comes to their price. the price was fair when it was $175 it's double that today and I don't believe it's worth double as I can get an oryx chassis for slightly more at that point

photo's of he ultimate sniper stock i once used and custom painted using various sponges for a pattern
keep in mind this was before hydro printing became mainstream
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The archangel must work well 'cause it is ugly. Sorry, nothing personal. The Klingon rifle is a tiny bit sexier LOL https://startrekartifacts.files.word...untitled-2.jpg

lmfao to each their own. i never said it was the best looking. just very comfortable. kinda like the boyds thumbhole stock on my dad's savage A22. comfortable as hell but ugly as sin (to me)
also got my new bolt and bolt handle in the mail today. i like it but again, not pleasing for everyone.
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Very nice OP. Glad you are happy with it.

A recommendation, if I could.... I’d have at doing any further bedding if I were in your shoes. Although being pillar bed, you may find no further action is required. But if so, you should do it yourself. It’s not difficult at all, and there is simply no match to the healthy dose of pride it instills.

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lmfao to each their own. i never said it was the best looking. just very comfortable. kinda like the boyds thumbhole stock on my dad's savage A22. comfortable as hell but ugly as sin (to me)
also got my new bolt and bolt handle in the mail today. i like it but again, not pleasing for everyone.

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I certainly don’t think it ugly at all. Yeah, it has its own thing going on. But hey..adds uniqueness!

After all, WHAT then on a rifle is NOT a letter of personal preference and one’s own taste? BTW, the bolt hand very nice indeed!

had to removed quite a bit around the recoil lug. news to me but i thought a recoil lug was a recoil lug. my rifle has a tapered one that is 1/8th longer than my other m10. that said i also need to remove some material for the tang as im going to float it as well... i could do all of this myself but the cost is so similar paying the smith vs buying everything i need and then having the time. also the local guy here does some pretty awesome work at bedding rifles. especially making damn sure the barrel sits dead center of the stock when done.

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lmfao to each their own. i never said it was the best looking. just very comfortable. kinda like the boyds thumbhole stock on my dad's savage A22. comfortable as hell but ugly as sin (to me)
also got my new bolt and bolt handle in the mail today. i like it but again, not pleasing for everyone.

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Like Dave Hobecks wife said. If you like it, that's what matters.(we know its Dav's wife because Dave used to be a trouble maker and now he sweet talks everybody.) His nose is so brown his breath stinks! :)

I actually like how they did the bolt release.

Shoe polish, some shaped popcycle sticks, q-tips, alcohol, JB weld, frog tape and something to prep the plastic and a Dremel to clean up the mag inlet and trigger relief and you can have a very decent bedding job. Yeah, all the professional bedding epoxies are nice but JB does good too.

I don't know about double the money. That Sniper stock was
found at EAB for $219 A short time ago. I did mention mine was
going on the mill for some (cough) tweaks....LOL That deal in
the front that looks like a 1930's shoe horn is just wrong, and
will be the first to go. I got something uglier in store to replace
it.....LOL

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I don't know about double the money. That Sniper stock was
found at EAB for $219 A short time ago. I did mention mine was
going on the mill for some (cough) tweaks....LOL That deal in
the front that looks like a 1930's shoe horn is just wrong, and
will be the first to go. I got something uglier in store to replace
it.....LOL

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hell before buying this stock, i was seeing the tactical and ultimate sniper stocks at around $300-$400 which is double what i last paid. they are nice but like this stock, they were nice for the price.
i would like to see your mods to that stock as it goes. feel free to link your post about it when you get er done

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i would like to see your mods to that stock as it goes. feel free to link your post about it when you get er done

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I'll do that. Normally I'd build off an MDT chassis, but I've been wanting to
go a different route, just for testing my wild cats and barrels. A beater so to
speak. I got Jim sending me another target action. I never could get enough
of those. I'll talk about one mod though.....The butt stock rail will get the
serrations milled off, then narrowed to ride a bag as it should. If I find it too
thin or weak, I'll do a length wise rod insert then fire up the bridgeport.

Ok-dokie

I was yanking your chain Dave. It was all in fun. I didn't know you had a sensitive side.

I would shoot it a bit before you change any bedding. I had the ultimate sniper stock and the other one and one problem existed, it weighed as much as the transmission in my 67 mustang but rigid as heck. If you are benching it or you are young and dont mind a super heavy gun the choate is really decent. The stock you have may be torque sensitive. Many of us run lighter torque on the rear screw and sometimes it makes a great difference in accuracy.

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I would shoot it a bit before you change any bedding. I had the ultimate sniper stock and the other one and one problem existed, it weighed as much as the transmission in my 67 mustang but rigid as heck. If you are benching it or you are young and dont mind a super heavy gun the choate is really decent. The stock you have may be torque sensitive. Many of us run lighter torque on the rear screw and sometimes it makes a great difference in accuracy.

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that is 100% why its best to free float the rear tang. it makes it quite a bit less sensitive to that. bedding a pillar bedded stock seems like a good idea to me. the pillars are a great addition but i doubt they are sufficient on their own... that said i still have no accuracy issues at all with the rifle as of yet. so i could just leave it alone. its just one of them "feel better" type of choices.

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I had the ultimate sniper stock and the other one and one problem existed, it weighed as much as the transmission in my 67 mustang but rigid as heck.

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Mine I had ordered for use as a test bench is still sitting in the box
it was shipped in. Next free chance, I'll weigh it, strip everything
off, and weigh it again. I did notice picking the box up off the front
porch, it had some heft. Fred might be short changing himself for
the shipping charges.....LOL

Nathan.....Can you slide a dollar bill under the tang ??

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Nathan.....Can you slide a dollar bill under the tang ??

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nope, still needs to have some material removed in that area.

I have looked around for just a few min, but I am not finding any listing for this for 223. All I can find for the savage short action is 308 based mags.

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I have looked around for just a few min, but I am not finding any listing for this for 223. All I can find for the savage short action is 308 based mags.

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contact Promag. im sure the stock is the same for 223 vs 308 as the action is the same. here is a link for the 223 mags for this stock

https://promagindustries.com/archang...black-polymer/

Looks like most everywhere is sold out of these stocks. Prices range from $169 up to $200+. I would hate to have to buy one with the 308 mag, just to have to turn around and buy a 223 mag for another $25.
I will try contacting them to see if they offer a stock with the 223 mag instead of the 308 mag.

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Looks like most everywhere is sold out of these stocks. Prices range from $169 up to $200+. I would hate to have to buy one with the 308 mag, just to have to turn around and buy a 223 mag for another $25.
I will try contacting them to see if they offer a stock with the 223 mag instead of the 308 mag.

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if you end up doing that i may be interesting in buying the .308 mag for the price you pay for the .223 mag. i was thinking of buying a second one just to have as a back up being as they are proprietary

Even though all my savages are in MDT , i must admit this budget stock actually looks pretty cool ,can't beat the price for sure. Can you insert other mags to seat bullets past 2815 COAL?

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Even though all my savages are in MDT , i must admit this budget stock actually looks pretty cool ,can't beat the price for sure. Can you insert other mags to seat bullets past 2815 COAL?

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i think it only works with their mags. not sure how long of a bullet can be loaded into them. the 140g are all ive tired and they have room to spare

So will this stock work with the 12FV.......meaning no additional bottom metal required?

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So will this stock work with the 12FV.......meaning no additional bottom metal required?

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If your rifle has the proper screw spacing and the receiver is based off the Savage model 10 which I believe it is it should fit and does not require any bottom metal for this stock at all. The only thing the stock requires is your barreled action. Now if you're like me and you have the longer and tapered recoil lug you will have to do some fitting to make the rifle that down in the stock. I have no idea what recoil lug the Model 12 has. I do know some models of savage like they're Target models have different screw spacing on the receivers and will not be compatible with standard model 10 stocks. I'm not 100% sure what the number designations mean I just know that double digit stands for short action and triple digit numbers stand for long action. My rifle is a model 11 which to me is no different than a model 10 other than stock that comes with the rifle.

The Dual Port Savage action is the only action that comes to
mind in the target series that has different spacing. The single
port target actions bolt right up other then not being able to
use the center screw if one is provided. With the single shots,
it's a moot point anyways, but they bolt right up.