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    looking to bring back the old 250 3000 with a Modern "Twist"


    Here is the plan.
    I'm looking for a used Axis I, thinking a standard or long action I think. I want room to use 115 gr copper bullets. I can get a 250 savage AI 20" 1X10 barrel from Shaw for around $380.
    The dies will have to be from Redding, there a bit expensive at like $250.
    I'm thinking about making it a dedicated night hunting gun.
    Pros. cons?

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    The 1-10" twist probably won't be fast enough to stabilize those 115gr solid copper bullets if they're the longer VLD-style. Copper is lighter than lead, so even though a 1-10" twist will easily stabilize most conventional copper cup/lead core bullets, a solid copper bullet of the same weight will be noticeably longer and require a faster twist. You can cheat a little on twist rate if you push them fast enough, but the .250-3000 Savage, even in an Ackley Improved like I have, won't provide enough speed to help in that regard. A 25-06 or .25-06 AI maybe, but not a .250-3000 Savage or AI.

    If I were wanting to build a .25 caliber to shoot the newer long/sleek bullets I'd probably go the .25-284 Norma route. The .25 Creedmoor has had some popularity in recent years, but I wouldn't recommend it on a Savage platform due to all the well documented feeding/extracting issues Savage's have with the Creedmoor cartridges.
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    I see on the Barnes load info there 115 bullets need a 1X10 twist with the 257 Roberts?

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    If you are referring to the Barnes 115 TSX Copper Bullets, they are 1.228” long & a 1:9 or faster twist is recommended. Just as Jim pointed out.

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    This is off there load page.
    Its in a 257 Roberts load.

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    This is right from the horse’s mouth. The reloading page is likely an oversight, as the list 1:10 for ALL the different weights in 257 Ackley.

    Bottom of the Specs Chart.
    https://www.barnesbullets.com/produc...nds-per-box=50

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